I'd like to have Odom in Houston, but not at the expense of the #1 pick, and there is no way I'd part with EG in the deal. Too much untapped potential.
Eddie and his untapped potential. Me, I think we could use Odom's skills at passing and dribbling. Yao Ming basically gives us a taller version of Eddie anyway. But I do like Eddie, too.
Thats a big question mark if Ming will ever have the potential of Griffin. Ming has proved nothing, and Griffin has defensively dominated all levels of the game (HS, NCAA & NBA). Nobody on our team came close to Griffin (on defense). He was labeled with great post moves in college, and when he bulks up this summer, he will be one of the most complete PF/C in the league. Ming might be able to rebound & block with the best of the 5 footers (see photos in other thread), but his stats are based on weak competition. I love the idea of Odom here. Almost every scout loves every part of his game. He fills almost every hole the Rockets have at SF. He is buddies with Cat/Francis and I have no doubt that he would sign a long term contract with Houston. I still think the best RUMORED trade on the table is with the Clippers.
I must say, on this night Lamar corrupted me. I guess he felt obligated, because he was a guest in my house.
Thats proof enough for me that we shouldn't get Odom. Do we really want him coming here and getting Cat and Francis on The Weed?
I'm a big Odom fan, but I think I'd rather have Griffin, if we're pairing with Ming - certainly for defense. BUT who will get Griffin the ball? Perhaps this is the reason to get Odom. Odom can feed Cuttino, but I wouldn't want to depend on Cuttino to feed Griffin. Francis/Ming should work fine on the strong side, with Ming high post. You can set MoT down on the low block. On the weak side, Cat can feed Griffin low or weave and catch. On the weave, Ming can hit Griffin fading for 18-24 ft, and Grif gets the switch, defended by tiny tot - but will Cat wave him off, and freelance? Replace Griffin with Odom. Now, Odom swings the ball to Cat. If Odom and Cat weave or switch, with Odom low, Cat gets the ball from Ming (or direct from Francis) within range for a nice j and with help to use spacing, screen or the first step to get room for the shot. I personally prefer to have a tall man shoot over a smaller one, but Cat does really have skills for seperation and scoring. The defensive loss is more troubling to me. Odom can't provide the additional weak side d that Griffin can if Ming is going to be a lurker and not a banger. Odom can move his feet, but not block shots. On the other hand, Francis and Mobley are going to need help preventing Js long before the opponent drives the middle.
Sounds like Mobley would be the one to trade, not Griffin. But would the Clips want him is the question. He is a vet, but he is not a front court player or a PG who can run the O.
Now that I let the cat out of the bag, let me say YES Lamar and I partied together, but let me also say that Lamar is one of the smartest people that I have ever met. He knows the ramifications of getting popped again, and will do whatever it takes to keep it from happening. If we somehow land this guy consider yourself VERY LUCKY!!
Why would we want to trade Mobley for Odom? In my opinion, the 13th leading scorer in the league is more valuable than an injury prone player who seems to get in trouble quite frequently. Walks like a duck...........
Who has the potential to take the Rockets to the next level? Lamar Odom and his all around skills, or Cuttino Mobley? Besides, Odom is worth more than Mobley straight up, what does that tell you?
Why is it that no one brings up the possibility to pick up the Kandi Man in these LA scenarios? IMO that's the only way we trade with them and that's excluding Griffin. #1 KT & #15 and deal should suffice. Need extra $$ ??? Make em take Rice. We get the TWO positions we desperately need. This is the only way I deal with them!! Hardball Baby!!!
How do you know who is worth more? Last I checked, there was no bid ask price for NBA players. Who has the potential? My answer is the one that can stay on the court. The one that averaged over 20 points last year. The one who had the balls(not always the brains) to take the last shot. The one that is as good as any other at going to the basket. The one that leaves everything he has on the floor each and everytime. Who has the potential? What has Odom done thus far? All potential means is ain't done nothing yet. And as far as I am concerned, he will not do anything in the future. Your third year in the league should put you amongst the best players in the league. That is your breakout year. What did Odom do? Hmmm. How did his team do when he was out? If he has so much potential then why is he the one being shopped and not Miles or Q? Odom=Mo Taylor as far as I am concerned. He looks good on paper but his teams don't do SQUAT.
You are kidding right? Odom is still of lottery pick value, don't you hear all the trade talk? When has Mobley been shopped for a lottery pick? He is a phenomenal athlete, but a poor team player. This is the same kid, rookie no less, that insisted on taking the last shot, when he had HOFers like Olajuwon, Barkley & Pippen playing with him. Growing up, the one thing ingrained by all BB coaches is that basketball is a team sport. The best players can get their teammates involved, otherwise you better be good enough to carry the entire team on your back. Mobley is a good player but not that good. He needs to involve his teammates.
Odom hasn't proven anything because he's been on the Clips. And he was injured last year. And, yes, he had his suspension(s) last year. Odom isn't a project. He's a talented player.
