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Give CD major respect

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Plowman, Sep 28, 2006.

  1. mj10501

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    HAHAH, i've been thinking the same thing for god knows how many years... :p
     
  2. Ognilecaf

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    Exactly....And hes a good solid Gm....His drafting? Ehhh, besides mobley and Locks in the top 1-3 he hasnt been too great
     
  3. ivanyy2000

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    His decision making ability is mediocre, he makes poor decisions a lot of time but he is very good at execution.

    Overall he is a mediocre GM, just like his team.
     
  4. solid

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    C.D. as best as I can tell is a very nice man, a quality person. Many and I say many of the personnel decisions made in the last few years: drafts, contracts, trades, etc. have not, in my opinion, been good ones. Some have. I am not sure who to fault and who to credit. The last ten years have been tough. There was a huge investment in SF, it didn't work out. The draft of Yao and the acquistion of TMac were high points, but the team has been in a hole and has a hard time overcoming the recent past. A highpoint for CD was the Sura, Barry, Wesley team that took Dallas to seven games. That team was held together by bailing wire, but it cooked. Injuries were the story last year, but the supporting cast was horrible. The MJ affair was a disaster. Traded for Alston, my word. It hasn't been pretty, but I will say this, the 06-07 team will likely be a nice way for CD to end his tenure on a high note. I wish him well.
     
  5. GATER

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    I find it difficult to pass around the praise when Wells basically fell into the Rockets' lap. Like was said earlier, let's see how rhe cards play out. The real challenge will be getting Wells back with next years' MLE.
     
  6. Joe Joe

    Joe Joe Go Stros!
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    Players win games. GMs and Coaches lose games by having the wrong players or schemes. Last year, I blame injuries.
     
  7. Yetti

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    Have the Rockets Management made it official?
     
  8. krosfyah

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    Bonzi didn't "fall in our lap." Like MJ, he was shopping around and CD closed the deal. Give credit where credit is due.

    In ANYTHING in life, luck plays into it. The successful people are the ones that can capitalize when luck goes their way. CD did.

    If you blaimed CD for losing Mike James, then you have to give CD credit for this. Simple as that.
     
  9. krosfyah

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    Other than trading away Mike James (whom CD acquired, btw), what bad personnel decisions have they made? In the past 4 years, I can't think of any.

    Mike James: certainly questionable but for me, the jury is still out.

    Battier: Jury is still out but I agree we should have gotten a 1st rounder in return but if the final result works out, then nobody will ever remember that part.

    Other than that, what are the questionable decisions in the last 4 years?
     
  10. TeamUSA

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    Oh pleaze.. what if Wells turn out another DA. :)
     
  11. Painting_Shade

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    wells is alot more durable than DA.... but anyway we should definitely keep our cool. We have no idea how the chemistry will work. in 0405 Jon Barry and Bob Sura were like our glue. We don't have that anymore. We have only these players returning:

    Tmac
    Yao
    Head
    Alston
    Howard
    Bowen
    Hayes
    Deke

    And these players coming in COMPLETELY NEW TO THE SYSTEM

    Novak
    VSpan
    Battier
    Wells
    JLIII
    Snyder

    (then scrubs lol)

    but you can see that almost HALF of our roster is new. I can see us struggling some until say january-february pre-allstar break when we'd pick it up. I'm predicting a 46 win season, health staying stable.

    what I DO like about the new guys is that I can see Novak, Battier, JLIII, and even VSpan having a very positive impact on team chemistry. Hell, even wells and snyder could add that "bad boy" affect that we've been missing. if everything falls into place, we have a good team. And it always seems to me that people forget that we have both YAO MING AND TRACY MCGRADY! They are AMAZING.
     
  12. SamFisher

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    Let's see the James trade we already know was a mistake, Swift; Anderson were mistakes.


    Overall putting all our eggs in an old decrepit basket lsat year was a mistake.

    Re-signing mutumbo last offseason hasn't paid too many dividends, though it's not a huge handicap either. Re-signing bowen was a mistake I'd say too. Not re-signng padgett didn't help.

    if McGrady has another injury-plauged season and goes the path of Penny Hardaway, singing him to a max extension can be ruled a mistake - which makes the tandem acquisition of cap-waste Juwan Howard a mistake.

    Drafting eddie Griffin (though that was five years ago, not four) was a mistake, not trading him when we supposedly had good offers like Rashard Lewis was a mistake.

    Getting rid of Kenny Thomas in 2002 - the only decent player from the Taylor-Griffin-Thomas trio, was also a mistake.

    That's just off the top of my head, I'm sure there's a few more.

    edit: More

    Bostjan Nachbar was a tremednous mistake and a waste of a first round pick.

    Eric Piatkowski ("The Polish Rifle") was supposedly a key FA acquisition who couldn't hit the broad sign of a barn.

    Trading a future first for Terrence Morris was also not a great moment.

    James Posey lit it up for a few seasons in memphis after we opted for Adrian Griffin instead.
     
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  14. thacabbage

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    LOL, what a joke! This board is so damn fickle that it is painful.

    What "major respect" does CD deserve? Wells fell into CD's lap at the last second because of the former's own stupidity in overvaluing himself. Just like McGrady fell into his lap. Just like Yao fell into his lap. It wasn't some stroke of genius talent evaluating or robbing some other team like GM's who are worthy of respect. CD was lucky enough to have McGrady on his team making it appealing enough for Wells to sign on. He's damn lucky this fell into place too because it actually justifies the Battier trade after he bungled negotiations with Mike James.

    So give me a break with the revisionist history, please. Wells is a major addition and we might even win 60 games this year, if healthy. But let's not start slobbering all over CD's knob just yet and re-writing history. The circumstances surrounding this move are fairly evident.
     
  15. SirCharlesFan

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    Were Swift and Anderson really mistakes? I mean what did they really cost us?
     
  16. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    it cost them a season. no it didn't cost players, but both guys were tabbed to be potential starters, so anytime you sign some guy to be a significant piece and he doesn't its a mistake.

    the goal is to win, not sign players who don't cost you.
     
  17. SamFisher

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    They didn't cost us anythign (except $) however they didn't get us anything either. What they were were two non-contributors who did nothing to salvage a waste of a season of a limited number of seasons during my short time on this earth and Yao/Tracy's shorter window of opportunity. That's the cost.
     
  18. gucci888

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    Everyone was excited about Swift, let's not forget he was one of the key FAs of last summer. I don't think you can look at the Swift signing and say it was a mistake, I think every team (except for the Grizz) would have taken Swift, he WAS the perfect fit for this team.

    At the end, it's up to the players and the team. Both Swift and DA seemed like a good fit for the team, it just ended being that DA was done (and a baby I might add) and that Swift is soft and has low bball IQ.

    And I wouldn't say it cost them a season...TMac being injured costed us the season.
     
  19. xiki

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    I'd love to see you banned for this inanity. If you don't like the man, that's cool. But you sure as heck are not!
     
  20. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    who cares if everyone was excited, btw I wasn't and I don't get paid a million to evaluate players. I saw that mistake from a mile away, at the same time I thought DA would be a good addition, I was wrong on that.

    but I don't get paid. if you still don't think swift was a mistake, you just don't get it and I'm not having this debate. there were points in the season jvg didn't even want to give him minutes.

    the gm's and coach's job is to evalute if a guy has a low bballIQ and is soft. its not a defense of them.

    one line you say he's a perfect fit the other you bash him. which is it.
     

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