I think a real relationship always has dramas, if your afraid of any drama and back off, no chance she would have crush on you. To persuit a girl you like, be brave and confident. Of course, you must end your current relationship before you have another one.
If you want cake, then you're gonna get drama. Don't p***y-foot around and get into this half-cocked. I get the feeling that if it isn't you, then it'll be someone else. She has long distance relationship that lasts for more than 5 years, and she's probably in college. But who knows? You might win the lottery and your wishes...
Just because you're not the only one doing something, it doesn't make it ok. That's not an acceptable way of justifying your actions by any means. The truth is, sadly you're not the only one. Unfortunately a lot of people are heartless in that way and it pisses me off. I find it impossible to respect any adult who would do it. They should know better.
dude, avoid it, relationships suck, unless you are married, just forget about it now, and when the time is right, as that girl the special question, cause that is alll that matters
The fact is you're in a relationship... you know it and acknowledge it, regardless of how ****itty you think it is and how it's not gonna work. The fact that you're pulling something like this with another girl makes me feel no pity for you. You're on a BBS and of course nothing's personal, but from a totally objective point of view.. you deserve no sympathy. Goodluck to you.
Wow, here's something I'm not used to... a hate-fest in a relationship thread. Both funny and refreshing at the same time. And heck, Baqui hasn't even shown up. Figures. This seems like it could be that rare time that someone actually takes his advice, too. Anyway, I certainly agree with the prevailing opinion. The lying going on here is the only thing that makes it wrong. Obviously you're both free to do what you want, but for god's sake, don't try to double dip. Tell your old girlfriend what's going on, and tell the new girl to do the same.
dude, ok. you're in a relationship and everything and that's great. You're obviously not into your girlfirend, give it up. Furthemore, this girl is in a 5 1/2 year relationship? The sheer length of that relationship coupled with a lack of marriage spells out fat chick to me. To each their own, but if you're gonna cheat on your girlfriend at let it be with somebody attractive.
Why shouldn't you be able to change your mind ? If you like the new girl, go for her. She is obviously interested and wants you. You just have the "token" boyfreind objection - you need to be strong enough to take the challenge. Look, guys - most really desireable girls have "boyfriends." Of course they do. Few of them are satisfied or serious. Come on, you guys knew that. You guys are coming down pretty hard on him, just because he lied up front, instead of saying he had a free sex, no-strings relationship. That seems pretty unsterstandable and forgiveable to me. This was a first date that accelerated unusually quickly. I think your real problem here will be buyer's remorse. You've got to re-attract, and get back to comfort before you can progress with the girl again. Today is not yesterday, it's a new day. So do something breezy and easy, light chat, humor, with a time restraint. Once you've got rapport back then you can go to high comfort, kino and sexual amplifiers and deal with the boyfriend objection, in a respectful way. Don't just blurt it out, of course. That's dumb - very bad advice, tactically, from our peanut gallery of third-party moralists here.
Sounds like you missed your chance the night you wanted to go to sleep and she wanted to get biblical...
Aries323, just go for it with the new girl. It sound like your relationship is dead anyway, so you need to move on. And so what if this girl has had a boyfriend for 5+ years. If she is willing to spend time with you and possibly let you knock it out, then that relationship doesn't mean to much to her.
Not to mention, most guys that spend a lot of time away are usually cheating too. So lets see, her boyfriend spends lots of time away, and after being with her for 5+ years he hasn't asked her to marry him. Sounds to me like she isn't to high on his priority list. If the boyfriend gets mad, so what. If he was truly handling things, she wouldn't be out with you. Plus she is not married and neither are you, so its all fair game.
Boy how's you know? In fact I've got my pipe right here in front of me. Part of me wants to incite more stupidity or frustration or anger, so that's why I'll post this: Now my question for you is, is this type of behavior (bf/gf cheating on bf/gf, but being okay) not uncommon in Japan or something??? If that's the case, just go back to one of your Japanese boards for advice that will stroke your ego.