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Giant Ape May be New Species...

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by KingCheetah, Oct 12, 2004.

  1. Buck Turgidson

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    thought it was kind of ironic that the thread with Giant Ape and new species was started by a guy named King Cheetah.


    Interesting stuff by the way.
     
  4. Lil Pun

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    Yeah I knew that but I still don't want to push it.
     
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    Oh, I see your point. That ape is practically naked. ;)
     
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    A bit of good news. It's not an ape, and it's not a new species, but still...

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    'Extinct' pine marten in comeback

    The pine marten - declared extinct in England a decade ago - is making a comeback in North Yorkshire, wildlife experts believe.
    New sightings on the edge of the North York Moors have prompted the Forestry Commission to set out feeding tubes to collect hair samples for DNA analysis.

    They hope that bait - including the mammal's favourite jam sandwiches - will lure the animals into the tubes.

    Once common in England, the animals were driven away by Victorian trappers.

    The Forestry Commission has teamed up with the Moors National Park, Hull University and local conservationists to find conclusive evidence that pine martens have ventured south from their refuge in the Scottish highlands.

    Brian Walker, Forestry Commission biodiversity officer, said: "My gut feeling is that we do have pine martens in this part of North Yorkshire.

    "Over the years we've had many sightings, some cases of mistaken identity, but others very convincing.

    "One of these came in July when an experienced ornithologist and wildlife photographer saw a creature matching the description of a pine marten."

    If their presence in Yorkshire is confirmed, forestry workers will attempt to manage woodland to suit the ferret-like animals' needs.

    As well as 100 feeding tubes, they have erected 10 den boxes in an area of forest near Osmotherley to encourage breeding.

    The efforts have been prompted by what the Forestry Commission say are "highly credible recent sightings" by local wildlife experts.

    It is believed the animals have returned because large areas of forest planted after the First World War have now reached maturity, providing new habitats which had been lost.

    Johnny Birks, of the Vincent Wildlife Trust, said: "I'm reasonably confident we do have martens in the Moors, but it is like looking for a needle in a haystack.

    "Clearly numbers are small and the creature may be clinging onto existence."

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/north_yorkshire/3953599.stm


    Hey, it likes jam sandwiches! :eek:
     
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    The earth is a very big place...
     
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    And in smaller news:

    Remains of New Species of Hobbit-Sized Human Found

    LONDON (Reuters) - Scientists in Australia have found a new species of hobbit-sized humans who lived about 18,000 years ago on an Indonesian island in a discovery that adds another piece to the complex puzzle of human evolution.

    The partial skeleton of Homo floresiensis, found in a cave on the island of Flores, is of an adult female that was a meter (3 feet) tall, had a chimpanzee-sized brain and was substantially different from modern humans.

    It shared the isolated island to the east of Java with miniature elephants and Komodo dragons. The creature walked upright, probably evolved into its dwarf size because of environmental conditions and coexisted with modern humans in the region for thousands of years.

    "It is an extraordinarily important find," Professor Chris Stringer, of the Natural History Museum in London, told a news conference on Wednesday. "It challenges the whole idea of what it is that makes us human."

    Peter Brown of the University of New England in Armidale, Australia, and his colleagues made the discovery of the skull and other bones, and miniature tools in September 2003 while looking for records of modern human migration to Asia. They reported the finding in the science journal Nature.

    "Finding these hominins on an isolated island in Asia, and with elements of modern human behavior in tool making and hunting, is truly remarkable and could not have been predicted by previous discoveries," Brown said in a statement.

    Local legends tell of hobbit-like creatures existing on islands long ago but there has been no evidence of them.

    DESCENDENT OF HOMO ERECTUS

    The hominin family tree, which includes humans and pre-humans, diverged from the chimpanzee line about 7 million years ago. Early African hominins walked upright, were small and had tiny brains.

    The new species, dubbed "Flores man," is thought to be a descendent of Homo erectus, which had a large brain, was full-sized and spread out from Africa to Asia about 2 million years ago.

    The new species became isolated on Flores and evolved into its dwarf form to conform with conditions, such as food shortages. Flores, which was probably never connected to the mainland, was home to a variety of exotic creatures including a dwarf form of the primitive elephant Stegodon.

    Modern humans had reached Australia about 45,000 years ago but they may not have passed through Flores. The scientists suspect the new species became extinct after a massive volcanic eruption on the island about 12,000 years ago.

    Brown and his colleagues have found the remains of seven other dwarf individuals at the same site since the first find.

    "The other individuals all show similar characteristics, and over a time range that now extends from as long ago as 95,000 years to as recently as 13,000 years ago -- a population of hobbits that seemed to disappear at about the same time as the pygmy elephants that they hunted," said Bert Roberts, one of the authors of the Nature study.

    http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=570&u=/nm/20041027/sc_nm/science_hominid_dc_1&printer=1
     

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