Fixed. For all we know, the thread starter could actually attract women to him. I think it's a stretch to say women can't feel jealousy around men who have natural swagger or sex appeal, and chances are they feel much more passionately about men like this as well. It goes against the ideals of self preservation for many of us, but that's just how the cookie crumbles. Take your girl out to a lounge in Barcelona, dance to some Oliver Cheatham, and do a little explaining about the male psyche. Just let her know how exclusive she is, and it will all be alright. <object width="480" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/lJqRNeFssQw&hl=en_US&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/lJqRNeFssQw&hl=en_US&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"></embed></object>
No, the biological clock for most women starts ticking around 23, desperation normally kicks in around 28, and after that each waking day as an unmarried or single woman is hell for them. Or they develop a masculine, femi-nazi approach to deal with it. Argue all you want, that's just the way the cookie crumbles.
In today's society, women find themselves at a loss. With today's standards of skinny-ness and beauty we find ourselves struggling to keep up with an image that is not only unreasonable but difficult to mirror. Not all of us were born to be 100 pound models and will probably never attain that body, even with exercise and healthy eating. p*rn allows men to view women that are these "perfect 10s" to women who will do things probably that other women will never do. As I understand and believe firmly in the look-but-don't-touch rule, I think it's a different response to talk about the woman when you see her versus coming home and speaking with your friend about it. Because to me that seems like he thought about the other woman enough to bring her up in a conversation hours later not just, "Hey man. Check out that hot chick over there. Yeah. I'd totally hit that." (Just an example, not saying you said this). The fact that she found your message and is now hurt and upset doesn't surprise me. Perhaps she's feeling low about herself. And with all the trouble of keeping up with todays "beautiful women" she may feel like she seems less attractive and such. Sometimes a woman just feels bad about themselves. As for her reading your "private" chat as some has put it. I hope you understand that as private as the chat was supposed to be, by leaving it open, it popping up...it's not considered private anymore. If you want to be with her, you need to sit down with her, tell her you've got something to say and that she needs to listen. Tell her how you feel about her, tell her that you were sorry that you had a conversation about the girl. I wouldn't necessarily apologize for feeling that way, as you probably aren't sorry for it. ^_^ But apologize for the conversation. Take her out or something, wine and dine as they say. And try to keep your eyes on her the whole night. :grin: I wouldn't rush into a marriage proposal if your relationship has been fine up until this point.
Depends. Woman are getting married later and putting off having children. With medical advances, women are comfortable having careers and then children later. That's just how the cookie crumbles.
Good rational post by the opposite sex. I don't agree with it all, but it's darn good insight into how women see the situation. Unless you're talking about extremes, 'things' is a matter of choice. But that's what the dating cycle is all about- finding out if the other person will satisfy your needs, sexually or otherwise.
Maybe women who lack fertility or social etiquette. Once you're in your 30's and you don't look like Demi Moore, you're automatically glanced over by the cream of the crop and looked at as a backseat shag and nothing more. This is still a society where the best value purity of the flesh, mind and soul. The amount of emotional baggage and defense mechanisms for a single woman in her 30's is astounding.
That's very true, but honestly, when most men view p*rn are they watching missionary/doggie style sex between a man and a woman? Even those men who don't ever want to participate in a threesome or etc watch p*rn that involves multiple females or men. Or even watch as woman stick wrenches where they don't belong, etc, etc. With the internet's p*rn compilation you can see just about anything that you would ever want and not want to see. Most women aren't going to say, "Sure....let's stick that in me. That should be fun." That is an extreme example, but again who watches p*rn that isn't a little bit extreme?
Everyone can learn so much from Eddie Murphy... <object width="480" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/u_f6qFBQD9U&hl=en_US&fs=1&rel=0"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/u_f6qFBQD9U&hl=en_US&fs=1&rel=0" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"></embed></object>
well, it sucks that she doesn't trust you...it's her insecurity coming through and son, it'll only get worse...if she can't handle that now, it's a lost cause... however, if you truly care and dare I say, want to continue a relationship with this woman, you need to be firm, but apologetic...meaning, you have to apologize for letting her read "guy talk" and that you weren't hiding anything, that's why you left it open...That you want only her and would never do anything to screw you guys up.. BUT, you do have to tell her guys talk smack all the time and that it's ok for each of you to admire the opposite sex...what's not ok is acting upon it and this is where you reiterate that you would never do that because you think she's beautiful, smart & sexy...no one makes you more happier than you... And of course, it's about control so you calling every 5 minutes isn't going to help...just call a couple times a day to let her know you miss her and want to talk about your future together...in the mean time, go hang out with your buddies and have fun until she figures out what punishment you have to take for being a guy...
Thanks to all who had a genuine response to my thread. Thanks also to the 12 year old who pointed out I might be fat? The ring ideas are out of the question and if she allows me to take her to dinner, that probably means she forgave me already. FLowers and gifts when she's upset only makes her realize it's all an act to gain her trust back. I think the best thing to do is just wait it out and see what happens.
How about posting the actual log your girlfriend read? Im not saying you're lying about how you feel towards her and not cheating on her...but i think we all tend to twist things when explaining them, so i think it's likely your chat wasnt as innocent as it sounds and that's whys he's pissed. If that's the case most of the advice won't help you enough or like it should.
We have talked about "acting upon" vs "talking about". She feels me taking the initiatve to talk to this girl is "acting upon" it. Which I did, I spoke first but by no means did it mean i was ready to ask for her digits and try to take her out. The entire dialogue didn't last more than 1 minute before I got my drink and left.
Don't have the original but went something like this. (No sugar coating i promise) Me: damn, the mall is brutal, fine honeys everywhere Friend: hahah, must be tough Me: hell yeah, I was just at this place getting something to drink and this hot little cutie was next to me, started chatting her up. I didn't say much though cuz she looked really pre-occupied trying to decide what she wanted. It's ok, I don't need to be mackin on girls anyways, lol Friend: hahaha, that's true.
