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Get rid of the 3pt shot and basketball would be great again!

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by DaDakota, Dec 18, 2024.

  1. pmac

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    Scalabrine had an interesting fix. Basically just go full euro and eliminate 3 in the key.



    I think it would bring back more low post play but I don't know if it would bring in the variety of play that people are looking for. It would just be another style that everyone copies, one post player and all 3pt shooters. And, it's not that the euro game is especially beautiful.
     
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  2. RC Cola

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    I think I support full zone defenses, but not with the goal of reducing the number of 3s. I'm not even sure it would really affect that much, and if you're going to have a bunch of slow lumbering bigs (instead of the more mobile ones), maybe you'd even get more 3s. You'd also likely reduce the number of shots at the rim, which tend to be the most exciting (and this era of basketball is prioritizing those alongside 3s). I support it to help out defenses, so I'm OK with it, but I don't know if everyone would agree.

    I haven't read through this thread, but I'm in the "3pt shots aren't a problem" camp.

    On a side-note, I think post play is kinda coming back on its own anyway (or at least skilled big men).
     
  3. Joe Rocket

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    Make Dunks worth 3 points.
     
  4. Easy

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    Come to think of it, eliminating the 3 or making the 3pt line farther from the rim is actually the opposite of what should happen. They should shorten the 3pt distance all the way to the FT line. That gives the midrange more value and forces both offense and defense to rethink how they approach the game. The traditional 3pt range will still be useful for spacing. If you can hit from farther out, the defense will have to come out to defend you and leaving the midrange area (now worth 3pts) more vulnerable.

    The league average of midrange is only 3% higher than the 3pt average.
     
  5. OremLK

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    I've been trying to think about ways to execute Morey's "2.5 points" suggestion without making things too weird--displaying decimals on the scoreboard just seems crazy--having a game decided by 0.5 points also seems insane.

    My first idea was that you just add a single light, or a check box, or whatever, to the scoreboard. When a team hits their first outside shot, the light turns on and they receive 2 points. When they hit the next one, the light turns back off and they instead score 3 points this time. So, 5 total points for hitting two three pointers, 2.5 points per shot. Rinse and repeat, with the light toggling on or off with each outside shot made, and it's worth 3 only if the light is on.

    Basically the light functions as the "half a point" marker. I think even idiots who don't know decimals could figure this out, probably. One quirk of this approach would be, at the end of a tied game, if one team has an extra half a point and the other doesn't, does the 3 point light serve as a tiebreaker, or do you just go to overtime? Overtime is fun, and again, having a game decided by half a point just sounds stupid. So I'm inclined to say the latter.

    My other idea was similar. Again, three pointers would immediately score two points, and half a point for later. But in this case, the extra points would be added to the team's next trip to the free throw line. You'd add a little ticker to the scoreboard that counts up each half point, and if there's more than 1 full point on there at the next free throw attempt, the player gets an extra free throw. (These should probably not count toward a player's scoring total or FT% for that game.) This could create some weird effects toward the end of the game though where teams have a bunch of free throws "saved up" but can't buy a foul call. I think you could simply handle this by saying, if the counter reaches three full points (six outside shots' worth), that team immediately gets three technical free throws. You could also have something like a "90 second warning" where all stored-up free throws get shot, maybe?

    In any case, it's gotten so bad that I'm convinced the league does need to do something drastic. It's making the sport really, really repetitive to watch, and overvaluing certain archetypes of players.
     
  6. Easy

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    How about making a shot behind the 3pt line is 2 points and 1. The And 1 will have more than 0.5 point value (about .75 point per league average). It adds the suspense for close end game situations. The downside is that it will add a lot of FTs and slow down the game.

    Using alternating 2 and 3 is not fair for individual stats.
     
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    This topic is just so stupid
     
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    Lol don’t count the shots as 3s until last 5min of half and game
     
  10. No Worries

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    This just in ... the NBA ruined basketball in 1979 when they added the three point shot ... 45 years later, fans are outraged ... finally.
     
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    Can't the people who complain about 3 pt shots just pretend that there is no line there?
     
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  12. The Hunted

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    My man, pump this into my veins. Wish I could like this twice.
     
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    Easiest fix. Picks above or near the 3 pt line are considered an offensive foul. Fair game everywhere else.

    Sad that we have to do Silver's work for him. Silver right now: "Moaarr slimer courts oooo"
     
  14. boomboom

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    I've lost interest in the NBA game. I'm still a Rockets fan...but can't watch a game involving any two random teams anymore. I think I'm no longer in the NBA's target market as I agree with DD that something needs to be done. In the NBA's golden age, there was no such thing as a big/tall guy (except Sam Perkins) shooting threes. Now, if you are 6'10" or taller and can't shoot threes, you're a project and potential G League/bust/bencher.
     
  15. FrontRunner

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    Allow each team a set amount of 3 pt attempts. Maybe a set amount per half. After that any made 3s don't count.

    I'm not sure what the final product would look like but it would be an interesting experiment.
     
  16. Rochut

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    Leave the game as it is, it works!!!
     
  17. Pistol Pete

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    The 3 pt shot allows for more comeback wins. No lead is safe.
     
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    Extend the line 2 feet and getting rid of the sideline 3 would drop percentages down below 35%. If you want to have 3 shooters at the top of the key and the elbows 30 feet away from the basket or whatever to launch a low percentage shot that will likely get rebounded that's fine.

    The 3 pointer allows more comeback wins in that it creates the 20+ point leads in the first place.
     
  19. JW86

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    Things to try in order:
    1. Allow hand checking
    2. No more 3 seconds in the paint, they are not calling it anyway
    3. Corner three point line gone
    4. move 3pt line back
    5. 3pt line completely gone
     
  20. Rocket River

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    Here is the thing . . . Some are better at the 3 than they are from 2 (outside of 4 ft)
    Move the line back . . .where do you think most of the shots will be
    Ok. . . no Corner 3s . . .now what. That part of the court is the new dunker's spot
    or not used AT ALL

    Seriously. People think it will be more entertaining watching most of the NBA trying to shoot 35% from the Elbow
    which most of the NBA cannot shoot from the Elbow

    Even with these changes it will be at least 5 yrs before the players adapt

    Rocket River
     

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