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Get a vet PG, shooter, and thug PF all in one player.

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Van Gundier, Aug 1, 2006.

  1. Toast

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    Actually, I like the idea. Jr. + Battier + TMac + Yao on the floor at the same time could create some serious defensive havoc. Battier + Jr. would spread the floor for Yao & TMac to operate 'cause they can both actually hit an outside shot. Color me interested.
     
  2. weslinder

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    In 2004-05, Dunleavy averaged 13.5/5.5/2.6, shot 45%, and had gotten better every year in the league. The Warriors gave him a "generous contract extension". In 05-06, he averaged 11.5/4.9/2.9, shot 41%, and had visibly regressed some. Golden State has a case of buyer's remorse.
     
  3. mogrod

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    Wait, this was a team that added a scoring PG (Baron Davis) to go along with their other scoring guard (JRich) and a nice, young, good rebounding PF (Diogu).

    His numbers are not that off and could probably be attributed more to above than anything else.
     
  4. BullRider

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    the warriors need to be in a mode of dumpign contracts. I say go for it!!!
     
  5. thadeus

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    The Great American Hero has the Eye of the Tiger!
     
  6. Van Gundier

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    Believe it or not, there is another player who can play positioon 1-4 like Thugleavy. He's not as good a shooter, but a better shot blocker, his contract is also smaller than Thugleavy's and we know for a fact his team is trying to trade him. Perhaps Juwan+ a conditional (lotto protected?) 1st rounder will get it done? Maybe less if his team gets more desperate as the season when on, though. His name has come up before: Darius Miles....

    I'm not sure whether his poor jump shooting means he won't fit with the Rockets. I mean, what in the world do you do with him on offense if he's supposed to play off Yao and Tracy most of the time? He's a very decent defender, though.

    Besides, according to the youtube video posted by ClutchCityReturns, he's a really nice fan-friendly young man:

    http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=116214

    He's just having a bad day:

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    Also... the Gay fans will have something to cheer about, young Rudy has nothing on this guy:

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  7. TRAVLR

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    Van Gundier,

    didn't we try a Darius Miles under achieving super athlete type last year in Stro?? that didn't work out too well. What makes you believe Miles would fit in well here?

    I do like his off the ball shot blocking though.
     
  8. topfive

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  9. Van Gundier

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    I think the differnce is that Miles can actually play basketball and has high bball IQ (even Nate McMillan said so, and these two have had their share of problems).

    With Stro, unfortunately, I get the feeling that he's more mechanical rather than instinctual, despite the fact that he has a great body and some bball skills.

    Like I said, I'm not sure if Miles fits in here offensively, maybe except as an extra ball handler and a spark plug when TMac is resting or injured. Defensively, he would be an asset, though...
     
  10. Guru

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    I don't see much difference between Dunleavy and Murphy. Muphy was a seady 14/10 guy last season who shoots nearly 35% from the arc. Not bad for 6-11 PF who could play C if we go small, i'd much rather have him than Dunleavy, Miles, or Howard.
     
  11. weslinder

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    Okay, that explains his averages dropping. Now explain his FG% dropping.
     
  12. jopatmc

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    McGrady Battier Miles with Yao and Rafer/Lucas/Spanoulis/Head would be very interesting. Miles is really the true point forward who could bring the ball up the floor on a gallop. Offensively, the matchup problems for the opponent would be crazy. Miles can defend anyone from 1-4 very effectively. He would actually be the best man on man defender that you would throw on guys like Kobe or Allen, and then let McGrady and Battier sort out the other matchups. Miles would be a great option to defend Dirk too. Offensively, you spot him up close to the left corner and bring McGrady from the top with Battier in the right corner and depending on matchups and what the defense is doing, let him post up. Nobody thinks Miles can shoot but he has great mid-range game. He isn't a 3 point shooter but he does have a very effective mid-range game.

    But alas, it will never happen. He's screwed up and now from a statistical efficiency perspective and an attitude perception, he is not a fit. Just don't see us being willing to take on his baggage in hopes of turning around his career. It is plainly obvious that he has all the physical ability in the world and would make us a tremendous defensive team.
     
  13. Rockets Dynasty

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    Yeah Miles can run the point very well too, but I disagree that he is better at it than Jr. I personally think Jr is better at it.
     
  14. jopatmc

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    Oh, I agree with that. Dunleavy is better at it because he went to Duke and he plays more cerebrally, which benefits him in making decisions with the ball in his hands. Miles has those abilities but he has not honed his game and worked on those things. As far as defensive ability and athleticism Miles blows Dunleavy out of the water. Miles would be a much more effective defender on any of the 2-4 positions than Dunleavy would be. But obviously Dunleavy is the much better shooter from distance.

    I'd take either one of them in a second of we could dump Juwan.
     
  15. Rockets Dynasty

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    Oh ok.

    But I'm not too sure about trading Miles for Juwan.

    I would have been keen on that before Miles told reporters yeah he comes to practice drunk practially every day and wasn't joking but was like "yeah so what?"

    That pretty much put Miles out of my mind there.
     
  16. xiki

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    We'd give a #1 when we wouldn't take him to get THE 'Target', BRoy? C'mon, that's as ridiculous as calling Dunleavy a thug.
     
  17. jopatmc

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    That's not true. Portland is the one that turned that deal down. CD would have snapped that deal up in a second. WE offered they rejected.
     
  18. DynastySS

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    Dunleavy is the worst player in the league. I have season tickets to watch his punk ass and he makes me cry night in and night out. I would rather see a starting line up of five Ryan Bowens then one Dunleavy...
     
  19. mrmrdan

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    We're NOT going to trade Juwan for Miles. How many highly-paid PF's do the Blazers have already, like 4...???? Miles' ideal role on a team is in conflict with Tracy's, and playing subordinate roles next to two superstars is not the best way to develop a player. On the other hand, there were no one else on the Blazers team and Miles still failed to develop. So maybe a change of scenery and reduced expectations might do good for Miles.
     

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