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Get a vet PG, shooter, and thug PF all in one player.

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Van Gundier, Aug 1, 2006.

  1. jopatmc

    jopatmc Member

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    Forget all that stuff. Let's just do Howard for Dunleavy straight up after the BYC disappears 10/31.

    By the way, I had to laugh at the thuggery label applied to Dunleavy. He's a thug like like that little brat kid in my 3rd grade class that went around hitting everybody in the knee with a wiffle ball bat.
     
  2. Jacquescas

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    I mean i'm not a fan of Dunlavy being our power forward for the contract he has. I'd rather take Zach Randolph who we at least know can perform at the position. I'd need more than just Dunlavy. Maybe forget about Dunlavy alltogether and go after Troy Murphy.
     
  3. Danbury

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    GS would have let him walk instead of giving him a generous contract extension if they didn't believe in him.
     
  5. Rockets Dynasty

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    Juwan Howard hasn't been 230 since his rookie year.

    He was 260 when he joined the Rockets and VG had him drop down to 253, he was at about 255 last year according to what he said in one interview.
     
  6. luhbron

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    Oh my God
    I have wanted to get Dunleavy for so long but because of his contract peolpe look at me like I am crazy. This guy can be the answer we have all been looking for. A shooting PF who can handle the ball and hit the 3. Sure his contract is big but we have to realize that that is the price of a PF in the NBA market.
    He can also be had for cheap. Ask around on RealGM Warrior forums. They would give this guy away for anythying..
     
  7. Rockets Dynasty

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    I have to say Dunleavy is outstanding at running the point. You have to really watch it to see just how good he is at it. He's also outstanding at shooting the 3 on the break on the pull up.

    And yes he can play the 4 very well using that undersized running type offense.

    With T-Mac at the 2, Battier at the 3, Dunleavy at the 4, then you could let Dunleavy run the offense and play a defender with size that could shoot from outside at the 1, which Sura (perhaps) or Head maybe or Spanoulis could develop into.

    The only problem is Dunleavy is extremely inconsistent and he is one of those confidence players.

    He basically seems to suffer from Stro Disease. But he has tremendous point and handling skills at 6-9 and can hit that 3.
     
  8. rockets fan

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    Dunleavy is horrible. He's like the younger, white, small forward version of Juwan Howard. Trading JHo for Dunleavy would not make the Rockets better. It's just getting younger but still with the same level of worthless production.
     
  9. mogrod

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    Dude, did you have to reply to the original post to make your point?

    Talk about extreme redundancy


    As for the topic, hey I'm sold. I like the fact that this thread idea was well thought out and presented as such.

    I think Dunleavy would be far more effective at the 4 than the wing simply because he can hit the outside shot but not extremely well, and would create big time mismatches in how well he handles the ball for that position. Everyone talks about getting a "ultra-rebounder" to start next to Yao (as I was one of them) but I think people forget how well TMac, Battier and Alston rebound for their positions. To add to that, Spanoulis could be a decent rebounder as well. Adding Dunleavy would give us a third 6-7+ rebounder (along with TMac & Battier).

    Of course, to actually land him, there would have to be at least a third team involved.
     
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  10. SamFisher

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    The Washington Generals or the NY Nationals could use a player of Howard's skill level.
     
  11. Sofine81

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    Just for the record I thought that post was awesome! :D
     
  12. luhbron

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    CHECK OUT What these 3 GSW fans said regarding trading Mike Dunleavy..

    1) I'd trade Dunleavy for one of your ball boys during shoot arounds before games.

    2) I would trade him for anything expiring. He's all yours man

    This guy just needs a change of scenery. Seriously, there is so much untapped potential still there. We would get AT LEAST the same production as Juwan if we played him at the 4, but we gain so much versatility with him. he can play 4 positions effectively and even 5 when opposing teams go small. And I agree with the post above. I have seen him play the PG position well. He uses so many intangibles and he is just an all around good player. He can be such a matchup problem for opposing teams.

    He is one of those players who thrives off confidence and while playing alongside Tmac and Yao, he is not forced to be a 1st or 2nd option. This will allow him to mentally develop in a stiuation where people are more forgiving if he struggles. When playing for GSW, they expected him to be a star immediately and that really hurt him.
    Think about the possibilities..
    Lets say we trade Howard/Head/Bowen for Dunleavy/Pietrus

    Rafer/Vspan/JL3
    Battier/Snyder/Pietrus
    McGrady/Novak/
    Dunleavy/Hayes
    Yao/Mutombo

    all the while Dunleavy can be a backup to 3 more positions...
     
  13. Deckard

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    Do what??

    We take back 2 horrible contracts for a big risk in Dunleavy, and a backup 5? For that, they get 2 ending contracts in Deke and Bowen, a guy who can actually still play and give them some decent minutes in Howard, and someone who, if healthy, would be a great rotation guy, and who will probably end up retiring. Hell, we should get 2 future #1's for being this crazy. Dunleavy and Murphy would be another story. Maybe not one we want, but at least worth discussing over a beer.
     
  14. Van Gundier

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    1. I am just kidding about the "thug" part... mostly as a reaction to the Shawn Kemp thread. Thugleavy's thug value is somewhere between that of Earl Boykens and Lance Bass.

    2. Sorry m_cable for stealing your style ;)... it's just so much fun.

    3. I'm not kidding, though, about him being skilled and a good fit for this team as part of the rotation. If he recovers his shooting touch, he'll at least come close to being worth his 9 mil a year where as, for this team, Juwan really isn't worth anywhere near his 7 mil a year unless you trade Yao for a Ben Wallace type (and that ain't gonna happen).

    Dunleavy will be a touch cover for most opposing 4s. He isn't stellar on D, but he is smart enough to play good team D and I think with Yao, McGrady, and Battier on the floor with him, that's the basis of a good functioning defensive unit right there. Heck, the Rockets D wasn't bad overall last year with Juwan and Stro manning the 4, and oompah loompahs at the 1, 2, and 3 for much of the season.

    4. With the BYC (which, I think doesn't expire until next offseason, correct me if wrong), probably a 3rd team needs to be involved. Also, if GS is taking back Juwan, it's probably only gonna make sense if they move Murphy first and start Diogu with Juwan as a cheaper (than Murphy anyway) backup.

    Rockets will also need to add something of value... likely Luther Head or a future pick, into the package.
     
  15. hatemavs4life

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    ROTFLMAO!!!
     
  16. Sextuple Double

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    I would take Thugleavy for half his contract. But why am I the only one who would prefer to see a big shot-blocking or boards crashing PF. And don't even mention Chuck Hayes cause he gets his during his 5min of garbage time against stiffs. He wouldn't grab 6 rebs playing heavy minutes against the likes of a Duncan, Garnett, or Brand. Can I see Melvin Ely or someone similar please?? I don't care what position Dunleavy played in college, he isn't a four unless in spot minutes against ONLY the Suns and MAYBE the Mavs. If Dunleavy is a four for playing that in college, then would you start Randy Foye as your power forward??
     
  17. roflmcwaffles

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    You guys should stop making trade suggestions with Bowen in there. He definately does not add value and NO ONE will trade for him.

    That being said if there was any way to get Dunleavy for JHo, I think we should go for it. He isn't a great player, but he is younger and quicker and can create if he needs to.
     
  18. Jacquescas

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    Bowen was put in to make the salaries match, he would have been waived immediately, his sneakers burned and his uniform disinfected.
     
  19. topfive

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    If we could get Thugleavy to hit the weights, then shave his head and get a big JVG tattoo on his skull, we might be able to turn him into the white Artest.
     
  20. aussie rocket

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    Pretty sure Clutch created the random trade idea thread for a good reason.
     

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