German study claims devout Islamic youth more violence-prone

It's pretty evident by all your Islam related posts/threads that you are a Muslim hater. That one thread you started, trying to act like you wanted to learn more about Islam, it was pretty obvious you started that to find a "leak" or a hole in Islam so you could try to further solidify your hate for it.

You, my friend, are a sad, sad person. Almost as sad as DaDakota.

 

I'm not angry at you. I could care less what you say/think about my religion. The only reason I reply is to hopefully change your mind about it and have a better understanding of Islam. A lot of people have tried but to no avail it seems. You can say whatever you want about Islam, it won't affect me. I love my religion and that's because I was taught it the proper way with a very good understanding of it. I hope that I can offer a more personal experience about Islam here from normal (not extreme) citizens of America rather than what most people get from the media. I, and other posters here, seem to be failing.

 

You know, they had another ground breaking survey like this years ago in Germany, where the top government scientists discovered devout jews were more likely to have caused World War I then other ethnic groups.

 

A young man growing up in a poor family in an otherwise affluent society will almost always be more prone to violent behavior than other, more fortunate, young men.

 

From what I've experienced, the more devout a Muslim I've encountered, the more peaceful he/she is. I don't know how different Germany (or Europe) is but I've witnessed numerous examples firsthand of Muslims who were getting into activities(drugs, clubs, fights, gangs, etc) but turned their lives around by coming back to religion where they found their peace. I mean, even Hakeem Olajuwon used to be somewhat hot-tempered in his earlier days then he humbled himself when he started practicing Islam regularly again. Maybe things are different and Islam is preached in a more extreme way in Germany but this certainly isn't the case here in the US.

 

I meant "you" as in anyone, not just you. And it does seem like you go out of your way somewhat to find this stuff (which also obviously comes off as a BS study). I don't know if you do go out of your way but it sure seems like it sometimes.

 

No, because of some of the other unbiased posts in this thread.

 

They make me question the legitimacy and even the accuracy of the study. Re-read some of the posts and you will see what I am talking about.

I'm done with this thread. I'm going to do something more productive like study for the USMLE.

 

This may also be a question of assimilation more so than devotion.

That is, immigrants who have trouble assimilating are likely to get into more scuffles and feel isolated from the culture they are in and thus turn to more traditional roots to find acceptance.

In other words, the causation may actually be the other way around. Instead of saying greater devotion causes a higher instance of violence, it might be that the factors leading up to increased violence (trouble blending in with German culture) leads to them turning to greater devotion.

It's a flawed study since it only establishes correlations, which anyone who took stat 101 can tell you - is not causation.

 

But you are arguing causation and you know it.

 

I don't make guesses or define people based on hunches or such. It's too easy to let my own personal biases influence that.

Staying detached and looking at the evidence, as someone who works in any court system should, I don't see how you could consider anything likely based on data that merely shows correlation.

 

Why is this a topic of study to begin with? Why would one set out to establish which devout follower of a creed is more likely to be violent? Sounds pretty agenda-driven to me. It was federally financed? Why would the government want to know about this kind of stuff?