Sorry Sweet lou/NY'er, but wnes has invoked Netizen Borg/Hive Mind telepathy - the collective thoughts that are beamed into Yao's head and onto our BBS are indeed the exact same as the rest of the Netizen AI construct.
The right to freedom of speech has nothing to do with private business. NOTHING. In Texas, your employer can fire you for anything you say, anywhere, any time, and for any reason. Freedom of speech is a Constitutional right to speech without government retribution. In other words, if your house gets demolished to make room for the Olympics you have the right to complain about the government and sue the government without getting thrown into prison by secret police and sent to a labor camp for re-education. Instead of continuing to post inanities, do yourself a favor and study freedom of speech and its history. You're such an angry poster that you can't even see straight.
Ah yes... the "words don't mean anything" defense. An ill-advised strategy on a medium that utilizes words for communication. Of course, the only one qualifying anything here is you. I'm not even sure how "freedom of speech" can be qualified if it doesn't exist. See where playing childish semantic games gets us? This paragraph is simply too tangled up with logical fallacies to be intelligible. Germany didn't censor anything. Of course, if you haven't yet understood that not-so-subtle distinction, you're pretty much hopeless. And I'm sure that the Chinese government has no influence on the content these fine publications disseminate to the public. First of all, the Germans and Japanese don't even have the same governments that they had during WWII. I wouldn't think this would have to be pointed out to you. Secondly, of course the US doesn't have a spotless record when it comes to free speech within our borders. Every government has an incentive to censor expression that threatens the authority of those in power. That is exactly why the First Amendment to the Constitution specifically protects the people against such censorship. China has no such protection, in part because individual rights are considered secondary to the interest of the state. I disagree with that approach, but that's the way they do it. However, to obfuscate the issue and say that there really is no difference between China's and the west's approach to individuals' rights to free expression betrays a powerful ignorance on your part.
Yes I want to take a bet, please lay out terms and then we will hack the Netizen HIVE MIND, so your borg thoughts will be on display. Once I gain the access codes . . . . it's all over for Chi-mperialism.
I guess your HIVE MIND causes you to believe the "black men not allowed in Beijing bars" urban legend. I am still amazed at how someone could be so dumb to believe a story like that. In also saw a few other fellows shared this borg thought with you.
Are you really sure? I will let you use some more time to rethink about it. I want to read your reply before I further discuss with you on this one.
Ah yes, you mean the story reported in South China Morning Post and never ever refuted by you? Please show me pictures of blackfolks partying it up on Sanlitun Lu in the last month. If provided with proper evidence, I will concede that PSB authorities have ceased their well documented crackdown on africans on Sanlitun which began in 2007. THANKS IN ADVANCE KID
The story is that they are going to ban black folks in the Beijing bars during the Olympics. And you are one of the fools who believed it. Stop trying to act dumb.
What is there to discuss? Its apparent this thread is just another in a disturbing trend of Chinese nationalistic nonsense that started right before the Olympics. MFW has no clue what he's talking about. In typical form, he's here name-calling and spewing a bunch of illogical bull.
You know, that's funny. Like I inflected then, Xinhua ISN'T manipulating the news. It is their right to fire you for anything you say, anywhere, anytime... You got it wrong again. Words have their defined and specific meanings. It is people like you that is justifying. For example, German Article 5 was quite absolute. Interpreting it any other way is justifying/finding loopholes. I've got no problems with words... Me? Qualifying? Have you looked up in a dictionary what "free" means lately? I'd reckon that it wasn't qualified into governmental and private domains. Oop, I looked it up, it doesn't. Freer, on the other hand... That merely reflect again, your lack of reading comprehension. If more (let's call them) whiners end up in jails and Chinese labour camps, then censorship arrests would be the rule, instead of the exception in China. If on the other hand, a handful gets arrested (wrong nevertheless, of course), but most don't, it is the exception instead of the rule. All things are a matter of degree. Read up a couple of posts, I have a definition of censor and suppress. Germany (or should I say, certain elements in Germany) censored, unless you didn't think they "to put down by authority or force." Now remember, I'm not justifying here. I'm using the exact terms. Just as sure as I am that the US/German/UK governments have no influence on the contents of free western media. Xinhua is governmentally owned so we could toss that out. Yangcheng Nightly (like oh so many others) is privately owned. Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't many of those Germans and Japanese sent to labour camps during the war in fact, American citizens? Actually China does have laws and regulations for individual rights. And certain actions of theirs that violate their own constitutions (not limited to freedom of speech) is the biggest problem most Chinese people have with their government. On the other hand though, you know what, individual rights are increasing in China. And the funny part is, the only times it takes a step backwards is when western media run another one of their propaganda. Food for thought...
But Yao is planning on becoming a US citizen at some point -- not a netizen, but an actual American citizen.
Now Sammy, it occurred to me that there are a lot more American posters on this board instead of Chinese. So there you have it: Chinese hive mind vs. American ant colony. Hows that? Gotta admit, it has a nice ring to it. Wrong Sammy. SCMP is the one that came up with the allegations. The onus is therefore, upon them to provide evidence. Without such, it would merely be nothing more than things they pulled out of their ass, which you delightfully ate up with a spoon. Now now CometsWin, where is your enthusiasm in the "China faked the Olympics" thread. I'm still waiting for a response you know. Taking pot shots and win only goes so far. Eventually you'll end up like Sammy, and it reveals that you never had a point all along.
You've been destroyed by Sam in head to head combat - in fact everyone you've stepped to has taken you out without malice. MFW you're like hunting Koi fish in a bucket -- easy prey.
Cheetah, it's time to get your vision checked. Or maybe your head. Or maybe both. Sammy has been dodging me for years, far before you've been taken to the dumpsters.
I can't even take anything you write seriously after this idiotic re-post of yours. I happen to be German and a lawyer by training, who, among other things, has taken classes in comparative constitutional law, comparing freedom of speech in the US and German constitution. You clearly understand nothing about freedom of speech in the German constitution and its interpretation, so please stop making a fool of yourself by pretending you do.
