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Georgia starts investigation into Trump's election interference

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  1. Os Trigonum

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    exactly. your talents are needed in the Hunter Biden hair on fire thread
     
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    David Lat on Trump's lawyers

    https://davidlat.substack.com/p/judicial-notice-082623-this-means

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    Lawyer of the Week: Steven Sadow.

    Although it is literally last week’s news, the Georgia criminal case brought by Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis against former President Donald Trump dominated this week’s news as well. The media provided extensive coverage of Trump and his 18 co-defendants presenting themselves for booking at the Fulton County Sheriff’s Office in Atlanta, and Trump’s mugshot went viral. Regardless of your feelings about Trump, you must give him props for that arresting expression in his painterly mugshot.

    Although it didn’t get as much coverage as his mugshot, Trump made a major change to his legal team: he replaced his lead lawyer, high-flying defense lawyer Drew Findling, with another top trial attorney, Steven H. Sadow. A Trumpworld source told CNN that Findling’s firing wasn’t because of his performance as a lawyer in the case. Trump’s other attorney, former prosecutor and veteran trial lawyer Jennifer Little, will stay on the team and work with Sadow as co-counsel.

    Swapping Findling for Sadow struck me as curious, since it’s not like Trump replaced a courtroom brawler with a white-shoe Biglaw partner (or the other way around). Finding and Sadow have similar profiles: both are highly regarded, aggressive courtroom advocates, unafraid of going to trial on behalf of colorful clients, often from the music world. Findling, who refers to himself as the #BillionDollarLawyer on Instagram, has represented the likes of Cardi B, Gucci Mane, Migos, and the late Young Dolph (who gave him the “billion dollar lawyer” nickname). Similarly, Sadow boasts a client roster that includes luminaries like Usher, T.I., and Rick Ross.

    It’s true that the politically liberal Findling criticized Trump before having him as a client, at one point calling him “the racist architect of fraudulent Trump University.” But presumably Trump was aware of this before hiring Findling, since the first step in Trumpworld vetting is seeing whether the candidate has ever spoken negatively of the Donald (which explains why many prominent right-of-center lawyers never got to serve in the Trump Administration). And, interestingly enough, Sadow is also left-of-center and a former Trump critic. As noted by Law360, he successfully litigated against Georgia’s anti-sodomy law in 1998, and after last year’s Dobbs decision, he offered pro bono representation to doctors prosecuted for performing abortions. As for his Trump comments, back in 2017 he described himself as “not a DT supporter.”

    One possible reason for the switch: Steve Sadow has extensive experience with RICO, the federal anti-racketeering statute, and its Georgia state-law counterpart. One of Sadow’s most high-profile RICO cases involved the Gold Club, a now-defunct strip club where celebrities received sexual favors. Perhaps that resonated with Trump, whose views on what “a star” can get away with are notorious.
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    Cult member spotted in Vegas.

    That tattoo ought to turn off a few women.

     
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    Boy did this guy lose a big bet or what o_O
     
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    Yes. Not a slam dunk for sure. Trials rarely are. But also not a stretch or grasping at straws by the prosecution.
     
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    Yes of course in a trial there is a chance of finding Trump innocent. Many are old enough to remember the OJ Simpson trial and Trump will be represented by lawyers who are also skilled.

    That doesn’t mean there’s not a strong amount of evidence pointing to guilt. Just today it sounds like three of the false electors are admitting they did that and did so for Trump. There is a lot of focus on the call and it’s pretty damning but there is also other evidence.
     
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    I have to wonder if the OJ case was in the modern era with cameras everywhere, twitter, social media and reporters up everyone's collective ass, would the result be the same? That trail was riveting, I had never watched a trial on TV and I was 100% sure (and I still am) that OJ was guilty........the small glove episode "if it does not fit, you must acquit" may be the best line ever in a trial.
     
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    I think the result would be the same. Johnny Cochran was a very skilled lawyer and the judge and DA in the case did a poor job.

    What would like the worse now is that it would be wrapped up in partisanship. You would either have OJ and his defense appeal to the left as a black man being tried by a racist system or appeal to the Right as a successful man being persecuted by a Democratic city.
     
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    Big happening in Fulton County Court...


     
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    What in the world? Is his lawyer tryin to suggest they can't prepare his case in seven months?

     
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    I don't understand... Trump said he had a "Large, Complex, Detailed but Irrefutable REPORT on the Presidential Election Fraud which took place in Georgia" prepared and *almost* ready to be presented more than a week ago. The trial should be a slam dunk for him.
     
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    Apparently, the crackpot lawyers are all trying to get their trials sooner...

     
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    What meadows will testify to...


     
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    He's unhinged! Now he's screaming his whole message in all caps. LOL

    I NEVER HAD AN IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY, I HAD AN IMPEACHMENT, WHICH I WON! IT WAS STARTED IMMEDIATELY, NO MEETINGS, NO STUDY, NO DELAYS. THE LUNATIC FASCHISTS & MARXISTS PLAY THE GAME DIFFERENTLY. THEY ARE OUT TO DESTROY AMERICA. MAGA!
     
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    Straight from the horse's mouth...

    Trump must have promised her some carrots, and she thought he meant carats.


     
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    Give him two weeks and he'll also have a BIG BEAUTIFUL BEST HEALTH CARE PLAN!!
     
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    Oh, naturally. Just like his tax plan was, according to Trump, "going to cost me a fortune."
     
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    Place to Sit, or Symbol of Resistance? The Evolution of the Folding Chair.
    It figured prominently in viral footage of a brawl, where it was used as a blunt instrument. So why is the humble folding chair now turning up on T-shirts, earrings and at least one tattoo?

    https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/26/style/folding-chair-alabama-riverfront-brawl.html

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    more at the link
     
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    I think he's doing a few things here:

    A. He's likely wanting to eventually get moved off the case by Trump. He I'm sure only took this case to get paid up front, and knows it'll jam up his practice for years. Maybe if he says he can't do it enough publicly like this, Trump will hire someone else.
    B. He's giving Trump an out if convicted to say that he didn't have adequate legal representation. He could appeal that his lawyer said in court he couldn't meet the deadlines, etc.
    C. Motions to delay a few weeks at least when we get to March
     

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