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Georgia starts investigation into Trump's election interference

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  1. No Worries

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    Georgia starts investigation into Trump's election interference

    Took a while. Evidently, Georgia's secretary of state is opening an investigation into Trump's brazen attempts to subvert the will of the people of Georgia.

    The Guardian:

    "The secretary of state's office investigates complaints it receives," said Walter Jones, a spokesman for the secretary of state's office, describing the investigation as "fact-finding and administrative", Reuters reported.

    "Any further legal efforts will be left to the attorney general," he said.

    Legal experts said Trump's phone calls might have violated at least three state criminal election laws: conspiracy to commit election fraud, criminal solicitation to commit election fraud, and intentional interference with performance of election duties.
     
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    Last week, Georgia DA asked for a special grand jury to investigate Trump.

    Willis, in a letter to Judge Christopher S. Brasher, said her office had received information "indicating a reasonable probability that the State of Georgia's administration of elections in 2020, including the state's election of President of the United States, was subject to possible criminal disruptions."

    Willis said the move was needed because a “significant number of witnesses and prospective witnesses have refused to cooperate with the investigation absent a subpoena requiring their testimony.”


    Court approves.

    Court Approves Special Grand Jury in Trump Election Inquiry - The New York Times (nytimes.com)
    Fulton DA in Georgia requests special grand jury for Trump election probe (ajc.com)
     
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    Trump indictment Georgia | Who all was charged? | 11alive.com

    ATLANTA — On Monday evening, a grand jury in Fulton County returned an indictment against former President Donald Trump, alleging that efforts to overturn the presidential election result in Georgia in 2020 amounted to an illegal conspiracy in violation of state laws.

    That historic decision implicates not just Trump, but several of the former president's allies as well.

    Who was charged in the Georgia election investigation?
    Nineteen people, including Trump, were indicted. Here is a list of all those charged:

    • Donald Trump

    • Rudy Giuliani: A former Trump attorney, he's facing 13 charges, including false statements and writings, conspiracy to commit false statements and writings, and solicitation of violation of oath by public officer. Giuliani made allegations of fraud during hearings before the Georgia House of Representatives. Those claims resulted in death threats against Fulton election workers Ruby Freeman and Shaye Moss. Giuliani accused the pair of mishandling ballots.

    • John Eastman: A member of the Trump legal team, Eastman was a key play in the plot to have Trump supporters pose as presidential electors in battleground states, including Georgia. Eastman faces nine charges, including conspiracy to commit impersonating a public officer and conspiracy to commit forgery.

    • Mark Meadows: Trump's former chief of staff, Meadows faces a charge of solicitation of violation of oath by public officer. The charge is tied to the Jan. 2, 2021 Trump-Raffensperger call.

    • Kenneth John Chesebro: A little-known attorney, Fulton County prosecutors allege that Chesebro worked with the leadership of the Georgia Republican Party, including then-chairman David Shafer, to have 16 Republicans meet at the Georgia State Capitol to sign Electoral College documents falsely claiming that Trump won the election. Chesebro faces seven charges related to his role in the plan.

    • Jeffrey Bossert Clark: A former Trump DOJ official, Clark worked to keep the former president in power. Clark faces a charge of criminal attempt to commit false statements and writings.

    • Jenna Lynn Ellis: A former Trump attorney, Ellis also attended the Dec. 3, 2020, Georgia Senate hearing where Trump allies claimed voter fraud handed the election to Biden. Ellis also authored two memos sent to Trump and others stating that Pence should ignore electoral college votes from certain battleground states, including Georgia. Ellis faces a charge of solicitation of violation of oath by public officer tied to the elector plot.

    • Ray Stallings Smith III: An attorney working with the Trump team, Smith faces 12 charges stemming from the Trump elector plot and election fraud claims that he pushed during a meeting in front of state lawmakers.

    • Robert David Cheeley: A Georgia attorney, Cheeley faces 10 charges, primarily stemming from his alleged role in the alternate elector scheme and the presentation of false fraud claims to Georgia state senators. He was also charged with perjury.

    • Michael A. Roman: A Philadelphia GOP campaign operative, Roman was director of Election Day operations for Trump’s 2020 reelection campaign. He faces seven charges, including multiple conspiracy charges. The charges stem from several events, including his alleged role in the Trump elector scheme.

    • David James Shafer: The former Georgia GOP chair, Shafer faces eight charges, including impersonating a public officer and forgery. Shafer led the meeting of fake Trump electors at the Georgia State Capitol on Dec. 14, 2020.

    • Shawn Micah Tresher Still: A current Georgia state Senator, Still was the secretary of the fake Trump elector meeting. He faces seven charges, including impersonating a public officer and forgery.

    • Stephen Cliffgard Lee: A police chaplain from Illinois, Lee went to the home of Fulton election worker Ruby Freeman and threatened her. He allegedly pressured Freeman to admit she committed election fraud. Lee faces five charges, mostly related to influencing witnesses.

    • Harrison William Prescott Floyd: The executive director of a national campaign coalition called Black Voices for Trump, Floyd was also involved in the alleged plot to pressure Freeman. Floyd faces three charges, mostly related to influencing witnesses.

    • Trevian V. Kutti: The one-time publicist for the rapper formerly known as Kayne West, Kutti was also involved in the alleged Freeman pressure plot. Kutti faces charges of conspiracy to commit solicitation of false statements and writings as well as influencing witnesses.

    • Sidney Katherine Powell: A former federal prosecutor, Powell joined the legal team formed to challenge the 2020 election results on Trump’s behalf. Powell was also involved in the alleged election data breach in Coffee County, Georgia, according to a court filing seeking her testimony. Powell coordinated with Atlanta-based forensic data firm SullivanStrickler to allegedly copy the data. She faces seven counts, including conspiracy to commit election fraud and conspiracy to commit computer trespass.

    • Cathleen Alston Latham: The former GOP chair of Coffee County, Latham was one of the sixteen Trump electors. She also played a key role in the Coffee County data breach. Video reviewed by 11Alive shows former Cathy Latham, a former Coffee County GOP chairwoman and fake Trump elector, escorting operatives working with Powell through the county’s election office in early January 2021. They accessed and copied state software and election data. She faces 11 charges tied to both.

    • Scott Graham Hall: An Atlanta-area businessman, Hall faces seven charges related to the accessing and copying of election data in Coffee County.

    • Misty Hampton aka Emily Misty Hayes: The election director in Coffee County, the data copying occurred under her watch. Hampton faces seven charges.
     
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    Trump Georgia grand jury watch live updates | 11alive.com

    Trump's 13 charges include:

    • Violation of the Georgia RICO Act
    • Conspiracy to commit impersonating a public officer
    • Conspiracy to commit forgery in the first degree (2 counts)
    • Conspiracy to commit false statements and writings (2 counts)
    • Conspiracy to commit filing false documents
    • Filing false documents
    • Solicitation of violations of oath by public officer (3 counts)
    • False statements and writings (2 counts)
     
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    Rudy Giuliani says Georgia indictment is "an affront to American democracy"

    Giuliani is charged with 13 counts in the 2020 election subversion case, more than any other defendant other than Trump.

    "This is an affront to American Democracy and does permanent, irrevocable harm to our justice system. It's just the next chapter in a book of lies with the purpose of framing President Donald Trump and anyone willing to take on the ruling regime," Giuliani claimed in a statement.

    "The real criminals here are the people who have brought this case forward both directly and indirectly," he added.

    Truth

    You are a liar Rudy! You, Trump, and others joined a conspiracy to unlawfully change the outcome” of the election. You unlawfully conspired and endeavored to conduct and participate in a criminal enterprise after Trump lost the election in Georgia.

    Nobody is harming the justice system by digging up the truth Rudy. The truth is that guys like you, Trump, and the others who conspired to steal the votes and overturn the election are the threats to Democracy.

    https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-fulton-county-georgia-08-14-23/index.html
     
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    Full text of indictment

    The Grand Jurors aforesaid, in the name and behalf of the citizens of Georgia, do hereby charge and accuse:

    DONALD JOHN TRUMP, RUDOLPH WILLIAM LOUIS GIULIANI, JOHN CHARLES EASTMAN, MARK RANDALL MEADOWS, KENNETH JOHN CI-IESEBRO, JEFFREY BOSSERT CLARK, JENNA LYNN ELLIS, RAY STALLINGS SMITH III, ROBERT DAVID CHEELEY, MICHAEL A. ROMAN, DAVID JAMES SHAFER, SHAWN MICAH TRESI-IER STILL, STEPHEN CLIFFGARD LEE, HARRISON WILLIAM PRESCOTT FLOYD, TREVIAN C. KUTTI, SIDNEY KATHERINEPOWELL, CATHLEEN ALSTON LATHAM, SCOTT GRAHAM HALL, and MISTY HAMPTON

    with the offense of VIOLATION OF TI-IE GEORGIA RICO (RACKETEER INFLUENCED AND CORRUPT ORGANIZATIONS) ACT, O.C.G.A. § 16-14-4(c), for the said accused, individually and as persons concerned in the commission of a crime, and together with unindicted co-conspirators, in the State of Georgia and County of Fulton, on and between the 4th day of November 2020 and the 15th day of September 2022, while associated with an enterprise, unlawfully conspired and endeavored to conduct and participate in, directly and indirectly, such enterprise through a pattern of racketeering activity in violation of O.C.G.A. § 16-14-4(b), as described below and incorporated by reference as if fillly set forth herein, contrary to the laws of said State, the good order, peace, and dignity thereof;

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    97 pages
     
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    Xerobull You son of a b!tch! I'm in!

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    Interesting that Meadows was part of this, he has been eerily quiet, if your indicted does that mean you haven't flipped, or you may have and face lesser charges???
     
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    I know it’s small potatoes in the grand scheme of things, but I’m glad to see charges against individuals for harassing and intimidating election workers.
     
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    It’s not that small potatoes. As we’ve seen our elections are dependent on volunteers because they are woefully underfunded. Harassing and intimidating election workers makes it harder to get more people willing to volunteer and work on elections. This has long term affects on our elections.
     
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    So much irony... rudy made a name for himself early on by going after rico charges... and now he faces them.
     
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    It's going to be hard to spin this as weaponization of the DOJ.
     
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    Good thing a jury of his peers will sort all of this out. Sounds like Rudy will easily be able to make his case.
     
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    Oh and even better is the fact that if he's convicted, there's no option for a state or federal pardon. Georgia has had governors that sold pardons so the constitution was amended to greatly restrict pardon power. Governors have no pardon power as that was delegated to an appointed board. Also that board can't commute sentences and can only start the pardon process 5 years AFTER a criminal felony sentence is completed.

    Basically once you're convicted in Georgia, there's no way out.
     
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    Another Trump boot licker trying to spin this on Democrats. Trump committed the crimes! He is NOT above the law, regardless of what your GOP loyalist version of law is. A ballot box is not how this country prosecutes criminals and felons. Nobody is above the law. That includes a grifting con with numerous felony charges running for President.

    Republicans testified against him! They told the truth. Don't twist the story to serve your lust for power you lying despicable spineless man.

     
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    Georgia appears to be a FAFO state.

    Doing the math, if Trump wins in 2024, he will serve his entire second term in a Georgia state pen.
     
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