tinman, You know I like your posts a lot...remember I was the only one that really had your back in the wikipedia war thread and I met Maxwell when I was younger and I've actually been to where Artest is from here in NYC (Queensbridge)....my point was that if you like Artest and Maxwell, you should like the Iranian President and here's why: 1 - All 3 overcame tremendous obstacles to get to where they're at or were in the case of Maxwell 2 - All 3 had humble beginnings 3 - All 3 have been critcized, but are also adored by many 4 - All 3 don't care what other people think about them 5 - All 3 are proven winners: Maxwell has two rings, Artest has been voted the NBA defensive player of the year (2003-04) and is the main reason the Kings are going into the playoffs, and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, as an underdog, came out of nowhere and defeated the favored candidate, Hashemi Rafsanjani, in the 2005 Iranian Presidential elections. 6 - All 3 are great athletes as well
never associate the tinman with soccer. basketball is superior. the nba and david stern will conquer the world. soccer will fail.
Rich women will go to another country and have it done. Poor women will either have the child, adding to the welfare rolls, or try to abort it themselves and wind up injured or dead.
no one knows if the country is safer or not. 9-11 happened while he was president as much as people want to blame the lack of defense on the clinton so I don't see how anyone can use that as a reason to like him.
I love how the liberals were asked to stay out of this thread, but they couldn't help themselves and dropped a giant turd on it in the form of their commentaries. Liberals - we know your views. You don't need to crap on a thread that asks you to stay out.
...which you pretty much did 2 posts ago by saying you don't understand how some of us can possibly think a certain way.
Why don't you guys be the bigger men then and ignore it? Otherwise it's seems your spoiling for a fight rather than a right wing group massage or at least a chance to proclaim vaunted "BBS etiquette superiority"
I'm saying it doesn't make sense. I don't know how else to say it. If I want to bash it I would just say its a stupid argument and people who say that are idiots but I didn't say it that way. I'm just saying it doesn't make sense. in other words explain to me how you know the country is safer. edit: and I never said I don't understand how someone could think a certain way.
in case you didn't know, this is the debate and discussion forum. who cares what the thread title says. why don't you lead by example and stop attempting to p3wn people.
I know I'm not welcomed in this thread, but soccer? You mean the communist-invented "sport" cleverly planted on the shores during the Cold War... a "sport" designed to deny our youth their God-given right to play the only kind of football there should be... AMERICAN FOOTBALL! C'mon, in soccer you can't even use your hands, much less clothesline someone. The popularity of soccer is just another example of how far this great country has fallen. When conservatives riff about the feminization of America, I blame soccer. If the President of Iran is a soccer supporter, I'm changing my stance... bomb away, but not with actual bombs... drop shoulder pads, helmets, and footballs among the populace... once they figure out that hitting people in a controlled environment is fun, they'll stop all this terrorist stuff, overthrow the government and the clerics, and join the NFL. Ideas are on our side and we just need to summon the will to counter the pernicious influence of soccer and the world will be ours on a platter.
I know that there's some Iranians playing basketball. that's our best way of changing the world. Look at the countries that were our 'enemies' and have embraced the NBA. CHINA RUSSIA GERMANY FRANCE (they're snobs come on) Once they embrace the NBA, they enbrace capitalism, individualism, style. Soccer is crap. Who the hell wants to idolize a player who scores 1 point a game? Kobe can drop 81 pts! Soccer, you can do only a few moves. where's the SLAM DUNK CONTEST? where's the crossover? Also, these countries like IRAN are violent. Soccer is violent. Fans yell RACISTS remarks, they start riots and fight people. there are deaths. in the NBA, unless you throw beer on Ron Artest, you're gauranteed to be safe.
point I was trying to make was I believed socccer was the most popular sport in the world at one point in time..
