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George Karl Please!!!!

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by colts_1994, Nov 8, 2013.

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tallanvor said: ↑

morey will trade asik therefore ending the twin towers mchale so stubbornly insists on playing. All will be well.
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I doubt McHale is playing a lineup that Morey is completely against.

But I do expect Asik to be traded. The Rockets just want the right opportunities to open up. Ryan Anderson proving he's healthy and then Emeka being available? A team interested in a combo deal?

He's not going to make a bad trade or mediocre trade to just get Asik off the team.

#21 justtxyank, Nov 8, 2013

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topfive said: ↑

Dump McHale for a coach that:

> Has had conflicts at every place he's ever coached?

> Got his teams into the conference finals only 3 times in 25 years, despite coaching some VERY talented teams?

> Has never gotten a team to the finals?

No thanks. If we make a coaching change at any point, there are much better choices.
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Huh? Karl's gotten to the Finals.

I like Karl, but this is way premature to talk about replacing McHale.

#22 trock, Nov 8, 2013
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Drew_Le said: ↑

Posted this in another thread, but:

JVG has talked at length about how if your superstar does not have the personality to lead a team, the coach needs to step in and set the tone for the team. It is no coincidence that the team Dwight Howard led to the finals was coached by JVG's brother, someone who stepped into that role.

Unfortunately, we are saddled with two very talented but uninspiring superstars. This is nothing that hasn't been said before, but Harden looks like a homeless crackhead on defense and then breaks plays for his Cuttino Mobley/Steve Francis-era ISO plays on offense. Howard is listless on offense unless a play is called for him, and, while an elite defensive player, he does not hold his teammates accountable for their lack effort on D.

When I look at our bench now, I see a Hall-of-Famer who's a player's coach. He's used to the accountability of Bird, Parish, etc. He's not used to having a coach police his players because when he played, they didn't need it. Now, he's doing nothing but babysitting a two immature stars and allowing them to run the team. Sadly, he doesn't know what else to do.

I really think that Morey is biding his time until he can get rid of McHale this offseason. He knows the character of his stars, and he has a close enough relationship with JVG to understand that not all great-talent comes with great leadership abilities. Just wait, we will bring in a new, more disciplined coach next year, and we're going to take the next step.
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great post.

#23 FOBolous, Nov 8, 2013
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pollaxt said: ↑

George Karl would be a massive upgrade. Honestly, if you replace McHale with a lemon tree on the bench, I doubt much would change.
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Karl would be an upgrade over McHale, but the Rockets aren't firing their head coach 6 games into the season when they're 4-2. McHale will be here the entire season. If the team flames out in the first or even second round, I could see him being on the hot seat, but he'll get at least one full year with this squad.

#24 count_dough-ku, Nov 8, 2013
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Karl is underrated apparently, just like Rick was before he was our coach.

Karl has only coached two really good teams. The Sonics for a few years and the Nuggets for a few years.

He took that Sonics team to the finals. The Nuggets team was basically an overachieving team that had a bunch of low bball iq players led by a complete ballhog.

I think George Karl has gotten the most possible out of the rosters he's had. People have too much of a "championship or bust" mentality. It's incredibly hard to even get to the finals, let alone win one. Karl and Adelman are both great coaches.

#25 justtxyank, Nov 8, 2013
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trock said: ↑

Huh? Karl's gotten to the Finals.

I like Karl, but this is way premature to talk about replacing McHale.
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My bad -- he's been there once in 25 years. Still not worth it.

#26 topfive, Nov 8, 2013
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George Karl has been a fine coach over the years BUT he has been known to choke in the playoffs. Karl is a better coach than Mchale, no doubt but lets not rush into things.

Mchale just needs to stop messing around with this TT lineup. Trust me, all will be well when this is finally fixed.

#27 mario_v, Nov 8, 2013

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justtxyank said: ↑

He took that Sonics team to the finals. The Nuggets team was basically an overachieving team that had a bunch of low bball iq players led by a complete ballhog.
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so he'd be perfect for the rockets

#28 Mr. Space City, Nov 8, 2013
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Sign Karl

#29 chandlerbang21, Nov 8, 2013
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Karl
SVG
JVG

A lamp post would do no worse than McHale.

#30 FTW Rockets FTW, Nov 8, 2013
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justtxyank said: ↑

I can't agree with this. Has Karl EVER had the best player in a playoff series he lost?

I'm asking honestly because I don't want to look it up.
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Karl probably had the top three players on the floor against Denver in '94.

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There is no better time to need a winning coach than now.

Stan Van Gundy, George Karl, JVG, Phil Jackson, Lionel Hollins. Not saying that every single one of them are itching to get back. But, it's a possibility for all.

#32 cjtaylorpt, Nov 8, 2013
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colts_1994 said: ↑

George Karl hopes to return to coaching, admits ‘anger and frustration’ over way things ended with Nuggets

http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports....ustration-over-way-things-ended-with-nuggets/

McHale blows, enough said. I don't care how many games into the season we are.
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will Haren listen to him and start playing defense and stop all those iso play?

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Don't hold your breath. McHale is staying, not that I am against having Karl over him.

#34 AvgJoe, Nov 8, 2013
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will Haren listen to him and start playing defense and stop all those iso play?
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You must be a LOF.

#35 cjtaylorpt, Nov 8, 2013
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He is better than McHale, but no thanks.

#36 saleem, Nov 8, 2013
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stan van gundy or george karl would lead us to the finals in the near future.

#37 TheRealist137, Nov 8, 2013
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Mchale is staying. He's one of the main reasons Dwight even came to Houston, and you think he's just going to get shipped off 6 games into the season?

You, and many others on here than are overreacting to 1 loss, need a serious dose of reality...
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Did Dwight really say that?

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Drew_Le said: ↑

Unfortunately, we are saddled with two very talented but uninspiring superstars. This is nothing that hasn't been said before, but Harden looks like a homeless crackhead on defense and then breaks plays for his Cuttino Mobley/Steve Francis-era ISO plays on offense. Howard is listless on offense unless a play is called for him, and, while an elite defensive player, he does not hold his teammates accountable for their lack effort on D.
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This. It's sad but true. I know McHale won't get canned or anything like that (this season at least) but a Karl or SVG would be perfect and just what we need for this sort of team we have.

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George Karl is a choke in the POs and I thought Dwight left Orlando to get the hell away from SVG. McHale is staying. We're only 6 games into the ****ing season guys, chill the heck out

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