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Gasol Better than Yao?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Entropy, May 29, 2010.

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  1. BetterThanEver

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    You put Yao on the Grizzlies and they would have been even worse.

    0-0-0 doesn't count as being good.
     
  2. Ramathorn006

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    HA! No way jose.

    You must have forgot about Yao's game. Yao dominates the league at the center position.

    A roster with Yao, Posey, Bonzi, and Battier would have won atleast 1 playoff game.

    Yao's first year going into the playoffs he had to face Shaq and won 2 games. Pau couldnt lead his team to a win against Duncan and the Spurs.
     
  3. BetterThanEver

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    Yao dominates the league at center position? He can't get even get on the court to dominate.
     
  4. Dream lover

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    Really? Have you seen Gasol play against Dwight Howard? Have you seen him play against an old Shaq? Did you see him last time he played against Yao? He gets run over every time and then whines like he always has. He's not great compared any current center. I still stand by my statement that he is not a center, but a power forward and as such plays against guys that he is bigger than.
     
  5. leebigez

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    Actually 3 times. Let me ask u a question, if gasol missed 32 games in the middle of a season and 30 games to end a season, do you think the grizzlies win 50+ games? I bring that up not to say who is better or not, but gasol was the best and most important player for the grizz vs yao who was the 2nd best and 2nd most important player on his team.

    There wasnt a player anywhere close to the caliber of tracy and the rox couldnt win a series. I agree kobe is the dude, but the lakers would be a 5 seed without gasol. If you polled every gm, it would probably be split down the middle with a healthy yao.
     
  6. wekko368

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    I stopped reading after this. Go back and check the stats for the 2009 finals.
     
  7. roslolian

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    Actually what I really hate about YOFs is they keep on ignoring the health issue like its not a big deal. They keep on pretending like the health asterisk doesn't exist, and talking about stuff like "Oh man, if Yao had been in Memphis the Grizzlies would have had a better record". The objective people on the board bring up the health issue and they can't reply. However a couple of days later they'll bring up the topic again. Just get this straight: even Juwon Howard is better than Yao Ming when Yao Ming is injured. Last I heard Yao's still limping on the court.
     
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    There's nothing cool about your center having a broken foot every year while making max money though.
     
  9. david_rocket

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    When Yao is playing he is a little bit better than Gasol, but since Gasol is more healthy than Yao, then you can add more to Gasol.

    and one thing Gasol is playing with Kobe, while Yao played with T-mac? thats no comparison.
    If you put Gasol with Tmac, Gasol doesnt get out of the first round.
     
  10. anchel

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    Not agree. First of all, Gasol achieves his goals as a 2nd reference, playing with the best NBA player and on the best team. When he has been a nÂș1 option, he has not achieved his goals by far (0-12 in playoff games as offensive reference). BIG difference.

    Gasol has shown decisive weaknesses that prevent him from being a valid franchise player. He's veeery confortable playing next to Kobe, Lamar, Phil, his triangle... it's the perfect situation for him, dream situation. A great player without a doubt, a feast for the eyes, the most versatile big man in the game, but not a big fish.

    2nly: Better all around game does not mean being the best player. Bogut has a better all around game than Yao too. Talk about Shaq...

    About this:

    Gasol won't turnover the ball because he doesn't suffer double teams... Because he's not as dominant as Yao in the post. Each player is the better player on his current role, but theoretically a franchise player is more valued.

    Now, would I exchange them? Sure I'd do it, but only for health and durability reasons. You are saying he's also the best player in the court, but in the court, I pick Yao. And especially for this team.
     
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    Well, the truth is that I don't know if I would trade them, this team doesn't need a Pau, need a Yao. So let's wait one more season.
     
  12. Ramathorn006

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    Yao only fan?

    Im far from it, I am a Rocket fan. The guy is a Rocket. I've seen what he can do for 8-9 years. I think he is the best center in the league. Pau is a top 5 center right now BUT I still think Yao is better. Its just my opinion.
     
  13. Mr. Space City

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    pretty much.

    both legit 2nd options but individually not able to carry a team far in the playoffs.
     
  14. conquistador#11

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    If yao had been a horse, He would have been put to sleep a long time ago. Tell us something we don't know.
    Obviously, if the poster is making a thread asking that question, he's asking us to pretend that yao hasn't been injured or to imagine a healthy Yao. Otherwise why ask it. :confused:

    So again, a healthy yao from just the 2008-2009 regular season is better than Gasol. The entire offense revolved around yao. Look at the defense without him.
     
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  15. BetterThanEver

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    Hasn't Yao only played for 7 seasons?
     
  16. Dream lover

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    Your kidding right? You want stats? I mean I guess 15.4 ppg and 15.2 rbg while averaging 4 blocks per game makes him chump change right? Gasol sure schooled him with 18.6 ppg a whole 3.2 ppg higher and man he sure got him on the boards...wait he had 9.2 while Howard had 15.2, that can't be right Gasol schooled him right? A whole 6 rebounds per game higher well Gasol was really blocking those shots then right? Wait...hmm he had 1.8 blocks while Howard had 4...but, but Gasol schooled him right? Well assist, Gasol is such a great passer and much better than Howard right? Gasol and Howard both at 2.2....man something doesn't add up. I checked the stats for the finals but I'm trying to see where the disparity is? Is the 3.2 points a game higher your actual arguement?
     
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  17. wekko368

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    Look at percentages.
     
  18. Ramathorn006

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    7-8 C'mon man :grin:
     
  19. BetterThanEver

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    Well....I guess you could have been talking about the 2000-01 and 2001-02 season in China. :grin:

    If you don't count the games missed to injury, it's closer to 6 years. :grin:
     
  20. Dream lover

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    Hey, I know let's get nit picky. I guess 49.4 is terrible compared to 61% except Howard played against Bynum and Odem and Walton swarming him while Gasol mainly got Rashard Lewis playing the Power foward spot and Battie and Gortat. If they really were playing that much against each other this might have half a merit, but once again I call fail.
     
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