Garoppolo in the 2nd

Well if Garoppolo is picked, then someone else will drop, there's only going to be 3 or 4 QB's picked in the first round.

 

The only guy that I would take a serious look at in the second or third round is Murray from Georgia.

 

I don't know what I think anymore.



I'd be okay with Garoppolo in the second, I think.

 

You might be able to take a serious look at him in the 4th or 5th rounds as well, he was considered a 3rd round prospect before he got hurt. There are plenty of good QB prospects left by the first pick in the second round.

 

Of course what scares me is that there are probably going to be 3 or 4 QB's taken, if those teams are smart, they'll take Bortles, Bridgewater, Carr, and Garoppolo and the pressure to take JFF in the second will be intense for the Texans. I REALLY REALLY REALLY hope there is some stupid team (perhaps the Raiders) that will take Manziel and let either Carr or Garoppolo fall.

 

If he is there in the 4th or 5th, than I guess you can take JG and then Murray.

Murray has potential. Good arm strength and decision making. I have absolutely warmed up to the Clowney/Mack idea.

What is the upside about JG?

 

Every QB class is different, odds based on the aggregate are not relevant or helpful. Overall, odds are that there is a franchise QB in every draft, tell that to the teams that picked QB's last year.

 

If Manziel is there in the second round, you take him. You watch his video, and he's got a ton of potential. He also has a ton to work on (as do most of the qbs in the draft), but he could potentially be great. I don't think you can pass on that in the second round. Especially if you get a top defensive player in the first round.

I know that McNair is hands off, yada yada, but if Manziel is there in the second, and O'Brien feels at least somewhat comfortable with him, it wouldn't surprised me if McNair gave the decision on that pick.


If we came out of this draft, after the first three rounds, with Clowney, Manziel, and someone like Shane Skov, I would be ecstatic.

 

JG has really good field vision and instincts, very good accuracy, he's smart, he has a strong arm, and a quick release. Like most of the QB's in this class, he's on the small side, and he'll need to be coached up on some of the finer points of being a QB such as footwork on 5 and 7 step drops

 

That's what I worry about. Manziel isn't an NFL QB prospect. There are at least 6 or 7 QB's in this class I'd take over Manziel just from a skill set point of view, throw in the media machine and attitude and I wouldn't draft him as Mr. Irrelevant. People can try to argue that he could be modeled after Russell Wilson, but he's not smart enough to take care of the ball, and I HIGHLY doubt he'd accept being relegated to a game manager role. I just don't see any way that he's still in the league in 6 years.

 

Had only two fumbles and had the lowest INT chance rate per throw apparently. He takes care of the ball. He just isn't what you want from a pocket stand point.

 

Totally disagree. I wouldbt take him top 5, but he's worth a late first to mid second round pick. For a team that needs a quarterback, I think you take him in the second if he's there.

Tebow was created off the hype machine. He was not a passer. Johnny can throw the ball. He tends to rely on his receivers a bit, and needs to learn to stay in the pocket more, and needs some work on his footwork as well, but he's got the arm, he's got the passion, and I'm pretty sure he's got the football mind, by all indications.

The only quarterback worth a top five pick is Bridgewater. After that, I think you have Manziel, Bortles and Carr and possibly Garoppolo who should go anywhere from late first to third.

 

If the Texans don't draft a quarterback in the 1st round... They may have their choice of Jimmy, Johnny, and or Teddy in the 2nd round. It's going to be some quarterbacks that drop like Geno and Barkley did last year.

 

Manziel isn't really a passer either. He was bad at making reads at the college level and that running around BS that he does will lead to big losses and probably injury. For him to be successful as an NFL QB, he'd have to completely purge himself of the entire way he plays football. He's not smart enough, he doesn't have the field vision, he's not a good enough passer, he's not refined at all as a QB, he's too small.....and that's not even taking his personality or media circus into the equation. I really feel sorry for whoever drafts him.

 

I disagree with most of that, but there's no arguing it...

 

Now you've just gone off the deep end.

 

Jesus dude let it go.