Gang-Raped Victim in Saudi Arabia gets 90 Lashes, Some Rapists get 10 Months

how is it racist to think that it is excessive to give a woman 90 lashes for getting into a car? it doesnt matter what country does this - it is wrong.

you are a liar. you admit you are. as an admitted liar, you have no credibility. would you think someone who admits they lie is credible?

its fun to make fun you. its really no trouble at all to go thru your posts in this thread and find the 5 times you said you were going to leave. it only took about a minute and a half, but the laughter never ends!

what exactly am i avoiding debating?

 

the woman still got 90 lashes and it is still wrong. what is your point again?

 

90 lashes, scarred for life on her back. PISS on Saudi Arabia and their archaic laws.

Let's get with China, Russia and Europe and just surround their oil fields for the good of the world.

Just impound them....and give them a little trickle from the profits.

DD

 

Just exactly like an old Chinese saying stats, "a tiny portion of mouse $hit spoils the whole pot of soup". A woman who was mentally and physically abused many times was viciously attacked again and again verbally, just "to make a point", "argue for the sake of argument". Without knowing her, she was labeled with all kinds of dirty wrong doings to "prove" some "PC" crap.

Most ironically, all the dirty laundry came from:

* someone waives the "tolerant and freedom" flag untiringly,
* some self-claimed debater who never honors logic and data,
* some self-claimed "physics degree" owner who never shows any basic knowledge of maths and statistics,
* some self-claimed "anti-racist" who once jumped up and down to argue people should be fine to be called monkeys for skin colors,
* someone who would lie about own race back and forth to "win" an internet debate,
* some self-claimed peace lover, who openly admits many times to enjoy making fun of an entire ethnic group and provoking them with hatred towards their people, culture, country, and tens of millions of lost lives,
* some shameless "debater" turns every single thread he engages in into some "PC or non-PC" garbage.

What a show, what a character, and What a POS! But then again, how predictable everything is. Sitting back during a busy work day, one might wonder about another old Chinese saying, "If the forest is deep enough, you will find all kinds of weird birds."

 

Ok Saint Jo Mama. Have fun.

When you are over calling me a liar, let me know and we can debate oh pious one.

 

Did she get the 90 lashes? I have not heard a thing stating that she has received them. Only that she has been waiting 5 months and FEARS getting them.

 

Even in those articles, the "blackmailer" is not one of the rapists. Her punishment was the same as the other man. She is not being punished for being raped. That's my point.

People are connecting the rape to the lashes. But that's a wrong judgement. No one wishes to acknowledge this point because it would mean doing something they couldn't stand.

No one here is capable of admitting I have a point because I am so hated. In a way, you're are saying to yourself - that my hate for someone overrules logic.

You are condemning yourself, not me.

 

1. You weren't only asking questions, you stated your opinion that shouldn't complain about the 90 lashes. Your saying she ought to just accept the unjust punishment.

2. It is illegal for a stranger to get into a car with an unknown child. It is called kidnapping.

3. If you are saying that the law is unjust then that is more going against another culture than talking about the harsh punishment. It is the culture that makes such a law possible. It is strange that you accuse others of not making an attempt at understanding the culture, yet it is you who say she would be ok to argue against the law, but she is not ok at arguing against the punishment of that law.

For the record I am also against the death penalty. I am against the death penalty, and against lashing a woman 90 times for getting into a car with a man.

Your argument that it might cut down on crime is beside the point. Rape would be drastically cut down if there was a law that permanently seperated males from females. Just because something would cut down on crime doesn't make it reasonable. Furthermore just because it cuts down on crime or even is a good law, doesn't make an unusually harsh punishment justified.

You aren't just asking questions in all of this. You made the statement that the woman shouldn't complain about getting 90 lashes for the law she is presumed to have violated.

 

the problem there is that china is just as bad as saudi arabia. those are two of the most brutal and oppressive governments in the world. but russia is killing journalists and other dissenters. and our country tortures people and our leaders say they can even torture children.

 

what is to debate? i gave my opinion that it is wrong to give a woman 90 lashes for getting in a car with a man. you accuse me of being racist for thinking this and when challenged you pull this garbage. i ask again - how is it racist to think that it is wrong to give a woman 90 lashes for getting in a car?

whats with all the "saint" and "pious" stuff. why are you getting so personal?

can you explain how it is not racist to call someone "macaca", but it is racist to think that the punishment is excessive?

as for the liar stuff - if i said that i have blue eyes and you start calling me "blue eyes" im not going to get mad about it. you admitted that you lie and make stuff up for the sake of arguing. by your own admission you are a liar.

 

again, nobody has claimed that is what she is being punished for. but you know this - you are just being deliberately obtuse for the sake of arguing.

you are the only one trying to connect the rape to the lashes.

get over yourself

 

THis thread is weird. How you can argue that the girl should be partly responsible for the rape is beyond me.

 

interesting - you give up the debate and now just fire personal attacks. You won't address my points - are you agreeing I am correct?

Personal attacks - Why even bother?

 

You're a saint beacuse you never lie oh pious one.

As for making stuff up for the sake of arguing....what did I make up? That I was indian? I AM INDIAN! That's the hilarious thing. I didn't make that up dude. Holy moly. But it doesn't matter. I'm just a liar. A liar is a liar is a liar. You know, I admit I lied about age when I was younger to get into bars. Therefore I am just a LIAR! Help me oh pious one!

Everyone is a racist. But you don't know who is a racist when. It's hard. Ya know, some guy was pissing on my building - and I told the drunk screw-up to go piss on his own house. He told me, "Why don't you go back to Pakistan"....man, I told him, "Why don't you go back to Jersey". Funny thing, I was just being silly - and he got pissed of when he wanted me to get pissed of.

I'm having fun here - not with any intent to - this is too easy. Why are you all getting so angry? This is D&D - nothing is at stake here - except your own sanity!

 

Yes you can. I suggest you read some of rhester's and madmax's posts in the religion threads and you will see how people can still remain civil and respectful while detating something intensely emotional.

 

Then why reply? If i am just a troll - put me on ignore. It's in my freakin tag line. If I am a troll, PUT ME ON IGNORE. DO IT!

So I said I was leaving D&D - and guess what, this is the only thread I'm really posting in. I am leaving, but I can change my mind to. I can flip flop and switch and change my mind.

I can say one thing, and then realize something, and say another. Guess what! I can change my opinion! Holy cow - unbelieable! How can someone shift and change their position.

That's unacceptable. Anyone who changes their mind is a troll - go get them hotballin tiger!

 

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