Game thread: Celtics at Heat - Veteran's day matchup

You're still not getting it. Just because they may have started to play and get going and get some shots in the 4th quarter to make it a game doesn't mean they're a great team. In fact, it was really just LeBron who lead the charge until late in the 4th when other role players for the Heat started making shots. You're trying to look for a bright spot, I get that, but you're kidding yourself if you're saying that this team is great because they lost by 5 to a pretty good Celtics team when they were down by 10+ for 90% of the game. Not only the scoreboard... but just the way they played... nothing looks in sync. It will take time... judging them in February/March is more fair.

 

Actually i think the heat will fair better against an LA squad. I think Garnett really intimidates Bosh and Lebron and Wade come out strong when they play kobe.

Another thing to examine is that all of their losses have come against top 5 pg's (CP3, Dwill, and rondo)

LA lacks that pg who can penetrate and break down that defense. Arroyo should have no trouble guarding Fisher allowing James and Wade to be more effective against the wings.

That being said this Heat team is so inconsistent and such poor execution I don't know what to expect.

 

i was paying attention

 

we don't the heat play dexter pittman?

 

the coach to be replaced with Pat Riley

 

Nahh Riley is too old. hes too comfortable in his role and I dont think he'll come back to such a stressful coaching job. I think a good replacement is JVG.

The problem with Spo is that he might be sound technically but he lacks that respect and ability to inspire that the top notch coaches like pop, phil, and doc have.

I think jvg could do that as he commands respect due to his past success.

 

Lebron's the most overrated player in sports history. His fans have made excuses for him since his rookie year. He's the most exciting player in today's game. But he can never be the best........

 

How is Lebron overrated? He just missed out on his 2nd triple double in a row, and was the main reason the Heat were even close to the celtics.

 

LOL at your oversimplified logic leading to hyperboles that dont make sense.

 

you can tell wade was letting his OFFENSE affect him.

when james jones turned that ball over, wade just put his head down and stood still, didn't even attempt to run back defensively.

 

i watched portions of the first half and the celtics outscored the heat 29-8 during the time i was watching so i stopped before i had an aneurysm, but looking at the box score, how was this not a 20+ point blowout?

i'm looking at ray allen going 13-23 and 7-9 on 3's and he was the cold one out of the big 3 as pierce hit 62.5% of his shots (10-16), and garnett hit 75% of his shots (6-8). and wade was simply awful.

in fact, it kind of looks like the first game of the season on steroids. ray allen (who is now 12-17 on 3's against the heat and 13-39 against everyone else) was on fire and even more on fire in this game. pierce made his shots at a higher level than normal just like game 1. garnett was hitting his jumpers. rondo had another huge assist night with 16 vs 17 last time.

and on the heat side, lebron has the only big game and has an even more ridiculous game this time, and wade, who had one of the worst games anyone could remember him having in game 1, just blew that out of the water with a 2-12, 6 TO game (wade's combined 6-28 w/ 12 TO's against boston is making mo williams look good right about now), and inexplicably the game was close at the end and not a 20 point blowout.

i'll say this for the heat's terrible start, they have 5 blowout wins and 4 close losses and one of the losses involved possibly the most miraculous comeback in history. if things ever break their way a little bit and bosh ever figures out how to play basketball again (apparently last year he posted up just as much as this year and led the league in PPS in the post, don't ask me how), they could put something together. or they could just frustrate me like every other sports team right now.

 

i think the great thing with miami is their patience. i don't think these losses will frustrate or piss them off that will cause an internal implosion. they know why they are losing these games, and they can easily fix this if they continue to stay together.

there is NO WAY ray allen stays this hot in te playoffs, EVEN IF HE'S OPEN.

 

Seriously? PJ is an even better coach than Celtic's coach. They have a lot of wing players who can take turns guarding Wade/LBJ from Odom, Artest, Kobe and even Vujacic. More importantly Gasol is playing out of this world right now, he will eat Bosh alive. If I were a betting man I'd say the Lakers have a bigger chance of winning a ring this year over Boston and Miami.

 

You're forgetting Rajon Rondo. 10-16 isn't that efficient. Maybe for him that's already efficient but someone like LBJ gets better statlines on an average night. Its just they have 4 all stars playing against two.

 

BAD MOVE PIERCE

LEBRON IS TAKING NOTES

 

If only he spent more time on trying to win than taking his notes and the Heat might be higher than battling out for 8th spot in the East! Poor Lebron surrounded by all those scrub team mates...

 

On the first point of this not being a blowout, it's because you don't look at pace. 88-80 is like 110-100. You also don't look at 2nd chance opportunities, which heavily favored Miami.

On your second point, the fact that a team Lebron, Wade, and Bosh is even in close games is something that's a head scratcher. And more so that they're LOSING them. Everyone knows this is a superstar league. That crunch time belongs to the stars. That refs will always favor the superstar with clock running down. So how is it that a team with 2 superstars NOT win games that go down the wire?

Besides, their blowouts, Orlando notwithstanding, had hardly come from top competition. The ability to kill lottery teams doesn't help you in the playoffs.

 

Yes, the Celtics traded their lottery pick for one of the best shooters of all time while the Rockets traded their lottery pick (Rudy Gay) for "intangibles"