I mean, come on. You're obsessed with this. You previously said how could Euron find Dany's fleet. Now you're conveniently contradicting yourself to say how could Dany NOT find Euron's fleet. Everyone knows everything about everything in Westoros ... because Westoros is LAND. One of the great things about navies before planes, satellites and drones is they can move around without detection. Not like Varys ravens and little birds can talk. Plus, even in ships, your vision is only like max 10 miles or so to see a sail. And it isn't a stretch to think Euron the World's Best Pirate didn't have some of his 1,000 ships go do scouting and patrol. I mean, since "everyone knows everything about everything in Westeros" didn't everyone know that Dany was headed to Dragonstone. If you're going to play that game, you can't deny the flip side of the coin that still uses your logic. Now, I agree with you that Vary's should have known Euron met with Cersei at KL, and that there is indeed a huge armada somewhere. Dany should have been alarmed enough to at least consider using one of her Dragons as escort....or sending out her own recon vessels. But as for you logic on face ... knowing exactly where Euron's fleet is: there is not much chance of finding a fleet unless you have planes like the US did at Midway. Or you need recon ships ... and that's where Euron's superior Pirating skills make him the favorite to find the other fleet first. As for the attack, once you locate that Dany's fleet went to Dragonstone, now you just leave the recon ships to watch them. Then you split off an appropriate size of your armada as an attack task force to take them out as they leave their port, under watch. You're idea that Euron doesn't now how to scout for other fleets, so just happened upon Yara is silly. Especailly when you reverse the logic and say Dany should have known the position of Euron's fleet.
I never said Danny should have known the position of the fleet nor did I say it would be impossible for Euron to find Yara. I do find it ridiculous that 1,000 ships got so close to Yara that they didn't know they were there until he dropped his bridge down on top of them. However, it is true that if a fleet of 1,000 ships sailed between Nassau and Florida and then parked off the shoreline of Miami, word would get around. Blackwater Bay isn't the Gulf of Mexico. I'm amused by it and get a kick out of the fact that some can't just admit that it's not logical yes.
I don't think you read my sailing tactics in the last post. I addressed that. As others have said, when you know where the other fleet is, you can go stealth with no lights. You can't be scene. It's a recurring tactic in Black Sails, btw, which is pretty accurate in its sailing tactics. So, if Euron the Pirate had recon scouts out looking and found Yara earlier, and we have hints that he found her days earlier, he attacks when it's dark. btw: the dropping of the bridge was only after the artillery barrage started. Seemed like a ship sailing at ram-speed that hit Yara's boat,,,,then dropped the bridge. It got rammed at full speed. Euron could have already been tracking Yara's movement And since you said, "Everyone knew everything about everything in Westeros" then your logic dictates everyone knew Dany came from the East to Dragonstone. So, Euron's recon ships just find them there. Or they know where Dany went because word got out she picked up Lady Tyrell and the Sand Snakes...or they were tracked to Dragonstone. Or maybe he found them in the Stepstones between Dorne peninsula and Easteros, and his scout vessels where tracking much longer. He surely would be hunting for Yara's stolen ships. I agree. I said that in my post. I don't think your actually read my post. You probably didn't read my explanation of sailing tactics in this post. Again, I agree Dany should have been warned that Euron met with Cersei with a big armada. But that doesn't mean she'd ever be able to track their movements. (Plus, it doesn't mean Euron is constantly moving the 1000 ships together. He can take out Yara's escort with smaller task forces.) In any event, Dany's use of that info should put her on alert to send out her own scouts ships and/or send out dragons to accompany Yara's escort ships for the Sand Snakes. But, since Dragonstone is an island, Dany's essentially trapped once Euron knows where she is. So, all you're really saying is Yara should not have left and we should have had a Midway-esque episode of Dany sending out her scout planes (Dragons) to find the Japanese fleet. Not sure if GRRM would have gone with that, though. He probably leaves the island too, and Euron wins a sea battle because he's just flat out the superior naval commander, and GRRM would probably agree that Euron would have known the whereabouts of Yara days before, with his recon ships. btw: How far can dragons fly. Blackwater bay is pretty damn big. Can the Dragon do search pattern hunts for long hours without rest? Well, anyhoot, once Dany gets word of Yara's defeat, she should immediately stop Tyrion's battle plans, and take the Dragons for a spin until she finds Euron's fleet, and destroy them like she did the attacking fleet of Meereen. But that won't happen, ...
The GOT Writer's room for episode 2: Writer 1: "So how about this, Euron drops in out of nowhere, crashing onto the deck of their ship from a siege bridge cackling like a ****ing madman. How cool would that look?" Writer 2: "Ok, but how does he get in range of their ship without anyone seeing him from far away?" Writer 1: "Doesnt. Matter. It. Looks. COOL." Writer 2: "**** it. I'm in."
This complaint is like complaining about how can wildlings who rule the forest and know everything not have recon warning their Kings that Stannis Baratheon went around the wall with a 1,600 cavalry to wipe them out. How did they not see that coming. The answer is it wouldn't have mattered, just would have been messier for Stannis and taken longer. Same here. Euro finding iYara sn't a stretch, just how short the battle was. These complaints are solely because GRRM did not give you an explanation it's just that books can explain more than TV and movies. Ships can go stealth by merely blowing out their candles Black Sails writers explain it, which is pretty accurate in naval battles during the pirating and Man o War era of ships You can't see other ships at night if they blow out all their candles. And they can see you if you don't blow out yours. Plus, I'm sure Euron had been scouting for his stolen fleet for days if not months. Hell, he probably knew they were at Dragonstone too. This all would have been explained in the books.
I think that is the point. The books haven't been written/finalized and it shows. GRRM wouldn't have let that slop fly.
Did you think Stannis getting 1,600 armored cavalry through hundreds of miles of the north without any wildlings spotting him was slop? I contend you don't think it is slop, because it was explained in the books, so didn't need TV explanation. I contend that Euron finding his stolen fleet and going stealth mode at night is a proven strategy in Black Sails, and not slop, which is based off of real sea battles. I contend you wouldn't call it slop if you read it in a book for a more in-depth explanation. Now, answer me why you don't think Stannis' surprise attack on the Wildlings *on their own turf* isn't slop in TV version of the attack. You can't, because GRRM said so.
