im kinda confused about this now. how can the world stop so many dead army ppl? there were only a few dragon glass daggers in the bag and they look like their one hit=one kill= instant break. there's just not enough. the biggest supply is thousdands of mile to the south on that island where stannis is from. john's sword is valeerian steel but there arent that many in the world. there's only 3 dragons and they can't breathe fire infinitely. i just don't see how you can beat the dead army with so few weapons. i know this is called song of ice and fire but fire so far is pretty weak.
You don't need the dragon glass or the valeerian steel for the dead army, you need it for the White Walkers.
There are 2 different kinds of enemies. Wights and White Walkers. Dragonglass and Valyrian Steel are for the White Walkers. Fire is for the Wights. There's been nothing to suggest Dragonglass is only a one use weapon. Sam's dagger didn't disintegrate. It was still there after the white walker he killed dissolved. I don't know how many white walkers there actually are, but it may not be that many. There were only 4 there at the Hardhome, right? IMO, the use of Valyrian Steel is intriguing, especially since they left their stash of Dragonglass at Hardhome. Jon's sword is Valyrian Steel. So was Ned's. That sword was melted down and made into two swords. One which was made for Joffrey and now belongs to Tommen. The other was given to Jaime who gave it to Brienne. Sam Tarley's father has one as does one of the Lord's of the Vale. The dagger used to try to kill Bran in Season 1 was Valyrian steel as well. I do think the dragons are ultimately going to have to be responsible for taking out most of the wights.
White Walkers are so OP, though. Why engage in battle? Let the Wights overrun the living. If you don't have enough Wights, hold up your arms to raise another army. White Walkers have terrible strategy.
i first thought the white walkers were the 4 horsemen because of the way they were on the hill commanding the dead army. but i guess there are a lot more of those commanders far in the north and these are just the early scouts.
It seemed that they were aware of the dragon glass. They tried to send the wights to secure it, but they failed and the building was on fire so the wights were useless at that point. Once Jon tried to go for the dragonglass, a walker had to stop him since the building was on fire. They knew how important a weapon that is against them.
Here is a list of all the Valyrian Steel known to exist in Westeros: Heartsbane - the ancestral two-handed greatsword of House Tarly, currently in the possession of Lord Randyll Tarly. Lady Forlorn - the ancestral sword of House Corbray, currently in the possession of Ser Lyn Corbray. Longclaw - the ancestral Valyrian steel b*stard sword of House Mormont. Currently in the possession of Jon Snow. Nightfall - the ancestral blade of House Harlaw and currently wielded by Ser Harras Harlaw. Oathkeeper - one of two Valyrian blades reforged by Tobho Mott from Ice. The blade was made for Ser Jaime Lannister, but he has given it to Brienne of Tarth for use in her quest to locate Sansa Stark. The blade was given its name, Oathkeeper, at that time. Red Rain - the sword of House Drumm, which was stolen by them in a raid. Given the name and coloring, possibly the ancestral sword of House Reyne. Widow’s Wail - one of two Valyrian blades reforged by Tobho Mott from Ice. Following Joffrey Baratheon’s death, ownership of Widow’s Wail has presumably passed to his younger brother, Tommen. The dagger with dragonbone hilt wielded by Bran Stark’s failed assassin - currently in the possession of Petyr Baelish. Valyrian steel arakh - owned by Caggo. Valyrian steel axe - reputedly possessed by House Celtigar. Maybe they go around rounding these all up next season for the sake of the realm?
Rumor: Casting spoiler Spoiler It's suggested that one casting description for a Season 6 character is for Lord Randyll Tarly, Sam's father. Might they be trying to get him to let them use Heartsbane?
Lmao, was thinking the same thing. Like, is this dude about to turn on his back and backstroke/float with the boats? Great, great episode. Was on edge during the entire white walker scene. I wonder what a nicelt placed arrow would have done to that leader walker.
Sure, but if you send wave after wave of wights at humans, that dragon glass isn't so scary. The only defense humans have against massive amounts of wights is fire. And the White Walkers have essentially an endless reinforcement of wights. Humans can't surround themselves with fire as protection or they'll destroy their lands. In a war of attrition, endless wights win. Wight army doesn't need food or rest. Humans are at a severe disadvantage. They're so OP yet don't understand the basic strategy of numbers. White Walkers should play more Risk. They pretty much have. Risk strategy: 1. Control Australia. Amass reinforces in a good territory with a defensible chokepoint. White Walkers have been amassing an army in the North behind the Wall. 2. Steam roll your enemies with sheer numbers.
Somehow, I think Melisandre and her Lord of Light will also figure prominently in the end battle. That whole mystery has yet to be fully revealed but certainly has been hinted at as being very important. It is called "A song of Ice and Fire" for good reason.
Those zombies can overrun Westeros like right now. I don't get what the hold up is. I assume the final battle won't be until the series finale... So story wise what's stopping them from storming over the wall right now.
It's just my opinion, but I'm thinking the reason is the White Walkers derive their power from the huge Winter Storm to come. Thus, "Winter is Coming".
That makes sense... but isn't already snowing all over the north already? Couldn't they theoretically go as far as winterfell?
It's not it's regular steel. Also didn't Joffreys valaryian sword get buried with him in his casket ?
Did anyone else get the feeling that old mate assistant kid for John Snow poisoned the food he brought Sam? I got that vibe.
