1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Game 4 Biggest choke job in Astros History?

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by texanskan, Oct 14, 2015.

  1. texanskan

    texanskan Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2006
    Messages:
    4,490
    Likes Received:
    78
    Was game 4 the worst choke job in Astros History?

    I know the 80s were full of them and in the late 90s we were just dominated. The last time we had an epic loss Roy O came back and pitched us to the world series bit as we go down to the Royals we will be the first team ever to lose a 4 run lead with 6 outs left in an elimination game and not win the series that is god awful. Ugggghhh
     
  2. mfastx

    mfastx Member

    Joined:
    Dec 1, 2009
    Messages:
    9,204
    Likes Received:
    2,437
    Definitely up there for sure.
     
  3. BleedsRocketRed

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2008
    Messages:
    3,901
    Likes Received:
    2,176
    at least the last 25 years. Sure Pujos knocked the one out on Lidge, but like you said Roy O pitched us to the big dance.

    I think being dominated by the Padres in late 90's was a big one as well. If there was one year to win it all, that was it.
     
  4. Harden2Capela

    Harden2Capela Member

    Joined:
    Jun 20, 2015
    Messages:
    1,345
    Likes Received:
    30
  5. J Sizzle

    J Sizzle Member

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2012
    Messages:
    41,887
    Likes Received:
    26,050
    The better question is whether it's the biggest choke job in Houston sports history.

    Oilers is still above it, but 8th inning Game 4 is up there.
     
  6. Nick

    Nick Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Feb 28, 1999
    Messages:
    42,183
    Likes Received:
    7,039
    The fact that it was only the LDS will automatically exclude it from being the biggest ever.

    Not even close in comparing it to the Pujols game... at a time where that team/city never had won a pennant and were literally 1 strike away.
     
  7. J.R.

    J.R. Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2008
    Messages:
    84,088
    Likes Received:
    88,894
    <iframe width="854" height="480" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/WAp1aYsKxU0?start=7750" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
     
  8. cangrejero51

    cangrejero51 Member

    Joined:
    Dec 16, 2014
    Messages:
    4,920
    Likes Received:
    44
    At least it was not as bad as the Rangers 3 errors in one inning, and Odor fielding an easy fly ball like a 5 year old player
     
  9. bobrek

    bobrek Person, woman, man, camera, TV
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 1999
    Messages:
    30,136
    Likes Received:
    16,170
    Not even close to game five against the Phillies and game six against the Mets considering both of those would have gotten them to the World Series.
     
  10. bobrek

    bobrek Person, woman, man, camera, TV
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 1999
    Messages:
    30,136
    Likes Received:
    16,170
    Not even close.
     
  11. TheRealist137

    TheRealist137 Member

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2009
    Messages:
    29,143
    Likes Received:
    10,988
    At least the Rangers are the biggest chokers in Texas.
     
  12. Mr.Scarface

    Mr.Scarface Member

    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2003
    Messages:
    8,546
    Likes Received:
    4,190
    Does it matter? You lose. Choke jobs for a team that has been in the playoffs in 10 years? That was supposed to be in the playoffs at all? No...its not a choke job. The better team made plays. This not the 35-3 Oilers Bills.
     
  13. texanskan

    texanskan Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2006
    Messages:
    4,490
    Likes Received:
    78
    The Oilers v Bills was first round as well. I am still in shock
     
  14. texanskan

    texanskan Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2006
    Messages:
    4,490
    Likes Received:
    78
    Up 6-2 in the 8th is a massive choke job.

    BTW Chiefs game was worse than Bills for Oilers
     
  15. Mr.Scarface

    Mr.Scarface Member

    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2003
    Messages:
    8,546
    Likes Received:
    4,190
    No...its not a choke job. You lost...it happens.
     
  16. robbie380

    robbie380 ლ(▀̿Ĺ̯▀̿ ̿ლ)
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2002
    Messages:
    21,044
    Likes Received:
    4,960
    I tend to agree. The whole entire bullpen blew it. It speaks more to the talent of the pen than choking imo.
     
  17. Mr.Scarface

    Mr.Scarface Member

    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2003
    Messages:
    8,546
    Likes Received:
    4,190
    No...the manager made mistakes in using his pitchers. The Astros didnt have enough this year. EVERYONE knew it. They were not ready to win. You don't leave those bullets in the Minors that you could have brought up. Stop playing game with ****ing arbitration clock. Bring up your players..........
     
  18. marks0223

    marks0223 Astros STILL 2017 Champions
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jul 19, 2007
    Messages:
    6,293
    Likes Received:
    5,765
    Astros had a 98.4% chance of winning going into the top of the 8th.
     
  19. astros123

    astros123 Member

    Joined:
    Mar 28, 2013
    Messages:
    2,822
    Likes Received:
    1,646
    most people forget that we had 1st and 2nd with one out and failed to score a run. We score another run there and its a whole new ballgame.
     
  20. count_dough-ku

    count_dough-ku Contributing Member

    Joined:
    May 19, 2002
    Messages:
    16,480
    Likes Received:
    7,369
    No, it was a choke. Maybe it was on one or two relievers(and Correa with the error) and not the entire team, but it was still a choke. You're up 6-2 at home and 6 outs away from a division series victory, you need to close.

    As for where it ranks in Astros history, I'll be honest. I was too young to watch those 80's playoff series. Sure, I've read about them and seen clips, but that's not the same as watching it live. I would absolutely rank the Game 4 choke over that Pujols homer though. The Stros still had 2 shots to win that series and did in fact take the next game.

    And BTW, that was a horrible blown save by Lidge, but I don't think letting 2 men on and then serving up a homer to the best hitter in the world(at the time anyway) compares to giving up 5 straight singles to start the 8th and letting 11 batters come to the plate when it's all said and done.
     

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now