Gallup: Obama's support similar to Kerry's in 2004

He won't win. Obama's already in the middle and while the GOP will try to push him back to the left, Obama's too nimble to allow that to happen to any great degree. McCain's problem is that he has to mollify the right without letting go of his reputation as a maverick. That would be very hard for a great politician to do. I think it's impossible to do when you start off by wrapping the Iraq War around your campaign. Needless to say, I don't think McCain has the extraordinary skills to pull it off.

No way. He has to go hard right just to keep from hemorrhaging on his right flank. They will definitely demand it for GOTV efforts.

I agree with that.

 

If after a tough primary, Obama has the same level of support among whites as Kerry since he likely has a greater resonance among minorities that Kerry did.

 

He is regarded as the most liberal senator based on scoring...I hardly call that a moderate. He has galvanized the far left, but it may surprise you when he goes against McCain...The far right realize Obama is far left and will choose to tilt the balance...They won't stay home as you predict...It will be very interesting.

I just hope some of you liberals don't jump off a bridge if the unthinkable happens...

http://nj.nationaljournal.com/voteratings/

 

Anybody else notice how this is becoming the same song every 4 years from the right wing?

Just change the name and add "most liberal senator/representative/governor" to it.

Tests can be changed to make anybody the most liberal or conservative person on the planet. They hold almost no-value-or-significance-what-so-ever.

 

Not so. The test criteria has been consistent since 1981 and each year respectively. They look at voting records... In addition ratings for McCain did not register, and had Clinton galvanized the nomination, the chips laid as they were showed her to be a moderate democrat. I would have feared a Hillary matchup versus McCain more because of the moderation factor to swing votes....By going Obama, we could see another Kerry episode...Silly... when will you learn going far left fails more often than it wins?

 

Scoring from the National Journal

Really ROX, you are smarter than this.

Using one of the most conservative think tank "studies" to prove that Obama is the most liberal member of congress is laughable. Especially since they so conveniently came to the same conclusion about Kerry four years ago. Coincidence? . Not to mention that their are several members of congress that are far more "liberal" than Obama. This really a silly and uninformed argument.

 

and McCain didn't bother to vote often enough to gain a composite score.

 

It's based on voting records and rankings change each year, just like sports players. That's an easy concept to follow...It just so happens Clinton is not the most liberal and only the 16th on the ranking...She could have easily won the nomination (too late now though)...Besides...the information was from 2007 when NOTHING was assured of Obama getting the nomination ...

Due to this fact, I find it more than "just conicidence"...Kerry part 2?

 

Obama has 1.5 million registered donors and just passed 1 million Volunteers



Kerry part 2?

not likely

Sorry you won't be along for the ride.

 

I'm going to be democratic positive for a moment:,...I will say I never thought he could out-wit Hillary in rhetoric positioning and debate..., and He has done that over the past few months...

 

*sigh*

The difference is Obama believes in what he stands for. And there is a bit of substance behind the rhetoric. I encourage you to take another look with a more positive perspective.

 

calm down. Only one nice thing to say...Obama is too liberal on many issues.

 

He certainly beat Clinton in rhetoric but I don't think he necessarily beat Clinton in debates as most analysts have given Clinton the edge in debates. The difference though is that debates aren't enough to sway an election and Obama had a superior orginization and had a wider appeal while many suffered from Clinton fatigue.

No matter though how Obama beat Clinton it shouldn't be any comfort to Republicans that Clinton still outraised McCain signfigantly and got more primary votes, even before the Republican primary campaign was over.

 

Exactly. I think its a mistake to compare Obama vs. McCain's support now with the exit polls of the 2004 general. Particularly since the primary campaign isn't technically over.

 

Yeah - Clinton definitely won pretty much all the debates, I think. That's just a very natural/comfortable environment for her, and not as much for him.

The last part is the big thing McCain is going to have to deal with. Through Super Tuesday when the GOP nomination was still up in the air, the loser in the Dem primaries was generally getting more votes than McCain, and often the winner was getting more than all the Republican candidates combined. The sheer number of voters in each primary when both were still in play is a huge boost for Democrats.