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Gallup: Congressional approval at all time low

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by basso, Jun 20, 2007.

  1. DonkeyMagic

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    force them to do anything somewhat productive and watch numbers soar.
     
  2. nyquil82

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    i have to agree here. When the republicans had power over the four branches of government (congress, president, judicial and media) they still screwed it up.

    Now the dems have power in congress and they aren't doing a thing to fix the problem that has been crapped on us for 5 years now, is every politician worthless?
     
  3. mc mark

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    Did you not see the earlier posts that show the republicans blocking every legislative measure brought up for a vote? True the dems have a majority now (albeit a very slim one) but it's hard to accomplish anything when the apposing party is stonewalling everything.
     
  4. rage

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    Who said you should do any thinking?
    You don't believe any poll that makes your side looks bad but you bring up this poll?! Except a door knob would know Congress still has almost half Republican members. I suggest throw those bums out of office and then come back with a poll and we'll talk.





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    I only save this language for guys like u.
     
  5. rage

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    Since you like poll so much:

    http://www.pollingreport.com/cong_rep.htm
    "How would you rate the job Republicans in Congress are doing: excellent, pretty good, only fair, or poor?"
    Excellent/Pretty Good Only Fair/Poor
    7/6-9/07 21% 76%


    http://www.pollingreport.com/cong_dem.htm
    "How would you rate the job Democrats in Congress are doing: excellent, pretty good, only fair, or poor?"
    Excellent/Pretty Good Only Fair/Poor
    7/6-9/07 31% 64%
     
  6. DonkeyMagic

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    i hate to say yes to your question, but it was the first answer that popped into my mind.

    to take an expression from braveheart...the problem with politics, it that its full of politicians.
     
  7. Batman Jones

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    No, you don't. You love to say that. The only way to defend the mess Bush has got us into (apparently your life's mission) is to say all sins are equal and all politicians are worthless. It's boring, it's meaningless and it's wrong.
     
  8. DonkeyMagic

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    ok buddy. whatever. once again you show off your great conversation skills. so much anger from a guy who wants peace.
     
  9. insane man

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    please explain the irony in destroying your argument and wanting peace?
     
  10. Sishir Chang

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    Yep..
     
  11. DonkeyMagic

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    please show me where he even mentioned an argument? well the hell did i mention an argument? I was just emphasising that i have an overall lack in the ability of politicians to get anything done. Sorry. I wish i was more optimistic, but you have to admit that they dont exactly make it easy to have faith

    i also didnt even mention who i was referring to. Actually, if you look at my first post i quoted DD, who was asking for pressure on bush about bringing troops home...and i used his same template to be more broad, i.e. do anything productive.

    No, batman does what he does all the time, puts words in my mouth because he cant handle that i disagreed with him about something in the past. so he labels me and rather than trying to actually get anywhere as to an understanding of one another views, he builds a straw mans and attacks it. Oddly enough, its a big problem in politics...he cant handle someone having a different view so rather than try to find an understanding, a middle ground, or at least a compromise (etc) he knocks down anything i say without even fully understanding what im trying to say, or really caring.
     
  12. Batman Jones

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    Donkey, I read your posts for weeks without replying. They all said the same thing -- that Bush wasn't responsible for the war or any other actions taken by his administration. Or that he was just one of many, many people responsible and, as such, it was somehow silly to criticize him. And they were each accompanied by roll-eye smilies suggesting that it was somehow ridiculous to blame the president for his actions.

    It's not that I "can't handle" that position. It's that it's stupid. It's that it's nothing more than intellectually lazy apologist hoohah.

    And I'm not angry with you as you suggested in your previous post, I just think the 'all politicians are the same' line is not only boring and cliched but is especially wrongheaded given that one party supports this war and will do almost anything to continue it and the other opposes it and will do almost anything to end it. Further, a great many politicians opposed it from the start for the exact reasons the vast majority of the country, the troops, Iraqis and the world oppose it now. Suggesting over and over and over again that there's no difference between those that opposed it always or oppose it now and those that supported it always and continue to support it is just silly.
     
  13. NewYorker

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    Let's the, republicans are upset the dems are in control so they give the congress a low rating.

    Then the rest of the nation is upset that the congress can't get us out of iraq, so they give the congress a negative rating.

    Hmmm, maybe 14% approval ain't all that bad?

    If Bush declared himself an independent, his approval rating might drop to 0%
     
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    via ThinkProgress --

    Nuclear Option Conservatives Embrace Permanent Filibuster To Maintain U.S. Occupation Of Iraq

    Tonight, Sen. Harry Reid (D-NV) will keep Senate “working through the night” in an effort to force conservatives to stand and filibuster the Levin/Reed plan for the withdrawal of American troops from Iraq.

    The same conservatives filibustering tonight were singing a different tune two years ago. When Democrats held up the confirmation of a few of President Bush’s right-wing judicial nominees, conservatives repeatedly complained of “obstructionism.”

    Senate conservatives had threatened to deploy the “nuclear option,” which would have eliminated the traditional Senate practice of filibustering.

    Today, however, these conservatives are proposing the exact opposite of the nuclear option — a permanent filibuster. The Washington Post reports today that McConnell has proposed an offer to have all Iraq amendments meet a 60 vote threshold, an effort designed to quietly block withdrawal legislation from ever passing the Senate:

    Minority Leader Mitch McConnell responded to Reid with a counteroffer: an automatic 60-vote threshold for all key Iraq amendments, eliminating the time-consuming process of clearing procedural hurdles. … [A]ll the controversial war-related votes held since Democrats took control of the Senate in January have required 60 “yeas” to pass.

    “It’s a shame that we find ourselves in the position that we’re in,” McConnell said. “It produces a level of animosity and unity on the minority side that makes it more difficult for the majority to pass important legislation.”

    Conservatives who decried obstructionism when advocating for an up-or-down vote on Bush’s right-wing judicial nominees today stand in the way of an up-or-down vote on withdrawing troops from Iraq.

    http://thinkprogress.org/
     
  15. Deckard

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    Complete and total hypocrites. Not at all surprising.



    D&D. Dumb and Dumber.
     
  16. jo mama

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    then they have done nothing. congress controls the purse - if they wanted to end the war they would cut off funding. constitutionally, that is all they can do.
     
  17. jo mama

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    how do you know this? i thought you didnt believe in 'polls'?
     
  18. mc mark

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    do i really need a poll to know people dont have confidence in the govt? i thought that was a given.
     
  20. rimrocker

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    Via Digby, I find this. The current number is 7 months into a 2 year term...

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