Gaining the World, but Losing Our Souls

Iraq was led by dirty, corrupted and cheating leaders who had killed their own people. Clearly, Saddam Hussein and his regime did not best represent a region where democracy and freedom was needed, not taken away.

 

Whoever we are
Wherever we're from
We shoulda noticed by now
Our behavior is dumb
And if our chances
Expect to improve
It's gonna take a lot more
Than tryin' to remove
The other race
Or the other whatever
From the face
Of the planet altogether

They call it the earth
Which is a dumb kinda name
But they named it right
cause we behave the same...
We are dumb all over
Dumb all over,
Yes we are
Dumb all over,
Near 'n far
Dumb all over,
Black 'n white
People, we is not wrapped tight

Nurds on the left
Nurds on the right
Religous fanatics
On the air every night
Sayin' the bible
Tells the story
Makes the details
Sound real gory
bout what to do
If the geeks over there
Don't believe in the book
We got over here

You can't run a race
Without no feet
n pretty soon
There won't be no street
For dummies to jog on
Or doggies to dog on
Religous fanatics
Can make it be all gone
(I mean it won't blow up
n disappear
It'll just look ugly
For a thousand years...)

You can't run a country
By a book of religion
Not by a heap
Or a lump or a smidgeon
Of foolish rules
Of ancient date
Designed to make
You all feel great
While you fold, spindle
And mutilate
Those unbelievers
From a neighboring state

To arms! to arms!
Hooray! that's great
Two legs ain't bad
Unless there's a crate
They ship the parts
To mama in
For souvenirs: two ears (get down!)
Not his, not hers, (but what the hey! )
The good book says:
("it gotta be that way!")
But their book says:
"revenge the crusades...
With whips n chains
n hand grenades..."
Two arms! two arms!
Have another and another
Our God says:
"there ain't no other!"
Our God says
"it's all okay!"
Our God says
"this is the way!"

It says in the book:
"burn n destroy...
n repent, n redeem
n revenge, n deploy
n rumble thee forth
To the land of the unbelieving scum on the other side
cause they don?t go for what's in the book
n that makes em bad
So verily we must choppeth them up
And stompeth them down
Or rent a nice french bomb
To poof them out of existance
While leaving their real estate just where we need it
To use again
For temples in which to praise our god
("cause he can really take care of business!")

And when his humble tv servant
With humble white hair
And humble glasses
And a nice brown suit
And maybe a blond wife who takes phone calls
Tells us our God says
It's okay to do this stuff
Then we gotta do it,
cause if we don't do it,
We ain't gwine up to hebbin!
(depending on which book you're using at the
Time...can?t use theirs... it don?t work
...it's all lies...gotta use mine...)
Ain't that right?
That's what they say
Every night...
Every day...
Hey, we can't really be dumb
If we're just following god?s orders
Hey, let's get serious...
God knows what he's doin?
He wrote this book here
An the book says:
He made us all to be just like him,"
So...
If we're dumb...
Then God is dumb...
(an maybe even a little ugly on the side)

 

When American troops are the ones facing the bullets and bombs, justifying the war to the American people is the most important thing. Would you not agree?

 

So was Liberia. Why didn't we attack that country?

 

I made some changes in the quote.

 

I'm not talking about race or religion or even nationality. I'm talking about a leader who killed his own people without any kind of justification (if fact, he killed them because of their religious beliefs) and had gotten away with it for the 30+ years that he has been in power.

 

So if we attacked Liberia and not Iraq and we were having this same discussion right now, wouldnt you say "Why didn't we attack Iraq?" We cannot attack all of them at once, nor do I believe we need to attack any more at all. If/when a free and democratic Iraq emerges, Iraq along with Lebanon will emerge as the "arsenals of democracy" in the middle east. This, especially with increased trade, economic stimulation of dealing with western countries, will lead other milddle eastern nations to follow suit.

Of course, this is in an ideal world. I do not know how events will pan out.

 

I doubt the Kurds signed up to be killed by George Bush, nor were they dying for a cause that they believed was greater than their own life. Please respect the American military before you make ridiculous statements like that.

 

Should have said:

I doubt the Kurds signed up to be killed by Saddam Hussein, nor were they dying for a cause that they believed was greater than their own life. Please respect the American military before you make ridiculous statements like that.

 

I most certainly do respect the American military. I have family serving in the American military, and my father was a veteran of WWII.

The statement I made is true. GW Bush lied, got his own citizens killed, cheated, took away freedoms, etc. Everything I made in that quote from you was accurate.

 

By equality, I mean that all citizens in said nation have equal rights, as they do in America (I guess gays dont have equal rights, but thats a different issue.) I mean that they can have the peace of mind that they will not be prosecuted nor persecuted for their religious beliefs or for whether or not they support a certain administration.

To the 2nd question: Yes we did, and it turned out to be a grave mistake. So did our support of Bin Laden. The Cold War skewed a lot of Western leaders rational thought, apparantely. All measures were being taken to prevent the spread of communism.

 

How did he cheat and what freedoms did he take away? Bush, in my opinion, did not lie, but thats a different matter. Bush did not get his own citizens killed, the Iraq military and then the insurgents in Iraq killed American soldiers who signed up for the army. Thus they believed that their lives were less important than the cause that they were serving for. Since you have military in your family, you should understand this.

 

if/when a free and democratic iraq emerges, it will be because the arab faction that kills the most people in the inevitable civil war wants it to be that way, and not because of anything we did, but in spite of it.

 

With strong and continued involvement from America in Iraq a civil war will not be allowed to happen.

And since when did democracies emerge from civil wars between two groups of religios fanatics?

 

No I wouldn't

I think your optomism is boundless. It's kind of like saying "if and when the Astros start winning this season, we're going all the way to the World Series".

 

Well Bush referred to a report that never existed. Then he said it was a mistake and listed a different report that also didn't exist. Then he claimed he actually meant a report that wasn't even in existence at the time he made the original statement. He either lied initially, to cover up the initial lie, or all three times.

There are memos that show Bush lied about when he decided to go to war.

Bush also told congress that he wanted authority to keep the peace. Is that what he did with that authority? People in his regime have definitely lied and it has been documented well.

The freedoms taken away are the right to an attorney, the right to speedy trial, and other issues associated with the PATRIOT ACT. Essentially the right of liberty.

Bush got his own citizens killed by sending them to Iraq, a nation that wasn't a threat to the U.S., and based on falsehoods by him and his administration.

 

which two groups are you talking about, christian america versus muslim terrorists

 

The Astros dont have good enough players to help them get there. Luckily, the Western nations that would be supporting a free middle east do.

 

I'm talking about the two arab factions in your "inevitable" civil war.