The real enjoyment is watching folks like Giffords & the Newtown parents melt down? Yeah, **** those assholes for not wanting insane people to get guns and kill innocent people! Hahahaha, who's crying now Gabby G!!!!
It's a fairly simple question. Should states have the ability to have their own laws regarding transport of guns into them?
I somewhat agree and I don't think abortion is that far off as analogy. Speaking for myself I don't have a problem though with more regulation on abortion providers. I think the Gosnell case shows that there are abuses out there. My own view is to consider each proposed regulation individually rather than presume it is automatically a slippery slope.
yes One benefit of 50 laboratories of democracy is that you can pick and choose the type of laws you want to live under, and a blanket policy for the entire country need not be agreed upon. More localized laws make for a more civil society. Not to mention you get different schemes and can see what works best. Competition, choice, etc.
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More of your meltdown. Like this post. The sad situation is the failure of the background check system which allowed Jared Loughner to have a gun. The same failure of a background check system you want to expand.
See, you added that to your original question. The reason I didn't answer is because if I say one thing then you will change the question by adding more detail. Playing gotcha. Let's look at your question in parts. Should states have the ability to (have) their own laws? States have the ability to create laws and change laws according to the Constitution of the State and the United States. Regarding (transport of guns) into them What do you consider transporting? Any and all? Large scale? Shipping? Personal carry? What kind of guns do you mean? Any and all? Handguns? Rifles? Shotguns? Assault Rifles?
No, the sad situation of the present day is the result of what Gabby describes in the initial post. Or her 'meltdown" as you call it.
Except you are missing the context of the discussion which is related to the transport of guns. Commodore gave a pretty direct answer to the question. Once again it is a pretty simple question. You are free to answer with any nuance you choose to add to it.
NRA head is clowning Obama today. He's spot on http://washingtonexaminer.com/nra-chief-obama-bit-off-more-than-he-could-chew/article/2527573
ah "to saving the children" rebuttal. It's like "when was the last time you beat your wife" question. Of course we would like to "save the children" so why not think logically and go after the "insane" people? seems like a good place to start. Criminals don't follow the law so what's more laws going to do other than infringe on legal gun owners? the Gifford's are being a little hyprocritical don't ya think?
So why are you supporting the "representatives" (sic, unless we mean of the gun lobby) who refuse to even discuss a bill that includes language related to mental health in the background checks? Why are you supporting anyone in government who opposes discussing *any* bipartisan idea. (Or any idea at all, no matter where it comes from. Christ.) These questions are rhetorical. I know the answer. What you and yours celebrate as melting down is the exact opposite. It is a full phase transition: freezing and solidifying for the long term. The NRA is the new tobacco lobby so we'll see how this plays out over the next couple of decades. Votes like the one yesterday could become a true watershed. If the NRA would make real suggestions and support real conversation, they would do their long-term interests, and the interests of law-abiding gun owners, a LOT of good.
The whole post was great. Sorry I have to spread more to rep you again. But this last part is incredibly true and warrants many repeats.
Texans being lectured on guns by a San Francisco based professor and an LA based teacher high comedy indeed
fwiw, I am not a member of the NRA so I can't speak for them. As far as the bill.. the gun lobby is only a part of the issue. Hipaa laws are the other. once again, I am not a part of the NRA and actually don't have anything against bipartisan cooperation. (but not just because the idea is bipartisan.) why ask? my statement was rhetorical too. I know that finding everyone crazy is an impossible task. again.. I don't represent the NRA.. but "intelligent" conversation between sides would be a good idea. However, I think that's where the disconnect is and there's no convincing some people either way. I try and not think dem or rep but logical instead. I actually voted for Obama in 08' fwiw.
Exactly. Too bad that the NRA leadership in more interested in protecting gun manufacturers than they are the American public. I know some NRA members, and the people I know aren't freaked out at all by the Senate bill, or limiting how much a clip can hold. Oh, and what FB said.
This is just false. If they represented gun manufactures they would have traded universal background checks and assault weapons ban for liability protection long ago. Bushmaster makes the same amount of cash on an AWB legal rifle as it does a non compliant one. They make the same profit on a 10rd vs a 30rd mag. A universal background check would make used firearms more expensive and troublesome pushing the market towards new firearms. This entire premise is illogical. Painting the NRA as evil in your own mind when the public says the NRA represents their views better than the president serves you no better in understanding the issue.
You are the same ilk that thought the country changed on this topic. This is no watershed transition. The tobacco lobby never had the majority of the public's support. They never had 5 million members that voted. They had addicted users. And this vote was not an annual budget or a reform on medicare or healthcare. This issue will continue to come up and giving away rights now doesn't help you in the future at all.
