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Gabby Giffords on the Senate's Shame

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  1. dback816

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    Yea, we didn't massacre the natives at all. They gave their guns, land and women to us willingly.
     
  2. bobmarley

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    mmm... Snickers, dark chocolate.

    I think I will enjoy one while you watch Cruz, Rand, and others make Democratic Senators pull their hair out because, "Hey, it's not fair! We have a majority, we won election, we should be able to pass everything we want without any checks and balances." So, because you aren't able to do what you want, you start calling people like Cruz, Senator McCarthy. Ha! You guys are helpless. There is a reason that you only get a few years every other decade or so to run things. Because people forget how inept you have been since Kennedy was killed. But when people realize all you can do is run a good campaign and give a good speech, they will turn things over to a group of people who get it done and respect our Constitution.
     
  3. mc mark

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    Good lord you are a lost soul.

    It's not democrats that are calling Cruz crazy.
     
  4. Major

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    We should. Too bad the gun lobby won't let us. Gotta allow rifles for kids.

    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/a...r-kindergarteners-are-commonplace.php?ref=fpb


    Accidental Toddler Shooting Rocks Rural Kentucky, Where Rifles For Kindergarteners Are Commonplace


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    “Down in Kentucky where we’re from, you know, guns are passed down from generation to generation,” White said. “You start at a young age with guns for hunting and everything.”

    What is more unusual than a child having a gun, he said, is “that a kid would get shot with it.”

    In this case, the rifle was made by a company that sells guns specifically for children — “My first rifle” is the slogan — in colors ranging from plain brown to hot pink to royal blue to multi-color swirls.

    “It’s a normal way of life, and it’s not just rural Kentucky, it’s rural America — hunting and shooting and sport fishing. It starts at an early age,” Cumberland County Judge Executive John Phelps said. “There’s probably not a household in this county that doesn’t have a gun.”
     
  5. bobmarley

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    I know that mc. He even made reference of it in the video that was posted.

    The problem is he isn't playing standard republican tactics.

    The Demo's have figured out how to get the better of those playing by those rules. So Cruz has come and and decided to shake up things to throw the Demos for a loop. Now they are up all night trying to figure out how to attack him and beat him. We shall see.
     
  6. Major

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    It makes it much if you can just pretend it's an isolated parent, but that's not the reality. From the link I posted above:


    White said the boy received the .22-caliber rifle as a gift, but it wasn’t clear who gave him the gun, which is known as a Crickett.

    “It’s a little rifle for a kid. … The little boy’s used to shooting the little gun,” White said.

    The company that makes the rifle, Milton, Pa.-based Keystone Sporting Arms, has a “Kids Corner” on its website with pictures of young boys and girls at shooting ranges and on bird and deer hunts. It says the company produced 60,000 Crickett and Chipmunk rifles for kids in 2008. The smaller rifles are sold with a mount to use at a shooting range.

    Keystone also makes guns for adults, but most of its products are geared toward children, including books, hats and bright orange vests.


    In Kentucky, you can get a gun safety certificiation at the age of 9, though you can attend earlier too, so they fully expect people of those ages to be shooting guns:

    Ruby Wright, who teaches hunter safety classes in Burkesville, said children younger than 9 can sit in, but they can’t get certification. She also coaches 4-H shooting sports, requiring those children to be 9 as well.
     
  7. mc mark

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    Being a dick and blocking every single piece of legislation just to "shake things up" is not patriotic, helpful or doing what’s best for the country. He’s just being a dick.
     
  8. Major

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    This is the same stuff people were saying about all the other Tea Party Senators that keep getting their ass kicked every time they run in any remotely competitive place. The only places these guys can win are deep red places like Kentucky and Texas. Dems aren't trying to beat them - I think they assume that's a given if they run for national office. They are trying to get stuff done. And on that token, GOP Senators often b**** about Cruz's style too (even on issues they agree with him on).
     
  9. rocketsjudoka

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    There is no other word to describe this but "CRAZY".

    Who the hell makes guns for kids let alone even gives guns to them in the first place. This sounds like something out of a Third World civil war.
    [​IMG]
     
  10. bobmarley

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    Looks like he is accomplishing what he wants. THe problem is other DEMO Senators aren't you and when they went to vote on the gun issue they listened to their constituency.
     
  11. bobmarley

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    Yes I know. Some Republicans don't like his style. But not the majority, or else they would have voted differently. Wins like the recent defeat of gun control measures only give him more credence in the tactics he uses.
     
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    My nephews all have guns.

    Granted they are under lock and key and only used when my brother in law is present.

    But kids using guns to go hunting with their parents isn't uncommon at all
     
  13. bobmarley

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    I agree. I grew up shooting guns with my dad and granddad and only when I was with them. This is a parenting issue not a gun control issue.
     
  14. Bandwagoner

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    Meanwhile two kids died from unintentional drownings and 10 went to the ER for nonfatal submersion injuries on average. No one needs a swimming pool. The parents of the kid who had the gun will go to prison, no one gives a **** about the drowning victims, because swimming pools are..........GREAT!
     
  15. FranchiseBlade

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    Sorry but it goes both ways. If people who want no gun control show examples of people using guns for defense against home invaders, then people who want stricter gun control can show examples of people getting killed by guns when it was a mistake.

    They both seem about the same level of effective or ineffective arguing.
     
  16. rocketsjudoka

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    And swimming pools are regulated, registered under property tax records and require a building permit to build.
     
  17. Bandwagoner

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    Not federally, and often not locally if you don't live in the city limits. Plus this "regulation" (please expand on it) blows because they kill way more kids than guns, it isn't even close. yet there are no specific laws punishing parents for a child hurt with a pool (like guns).
     
  18. rocketsjudoka

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    Most municipalities regulate swimming pools. Further pool equipment manufacturers have been held liable in cases where children have been injured. Gun advocates even resist that level of regulation.

    Child neglect and endangerment cases have been brought against parents whose children have drowned in pools.
     
  19. Major

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    Swimming pools don't exist for the purpose of injuring or killing things. Therefore, when they injure or kill things, it's an unexpected accident. When a gun made for a child kills another child, it's a far more predictable event.

    But maybe you're right. Perhaps since we can't reasonable stop all accidental deaths, we shouldn't try at all. Let's remove all safety regulations - no food safety, no water safety, no airplane regulations, seatbelt requirements, airbags, etc. Who cares, right? We can't stop them all anyway.
     
  20. Commodore

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    also Florida, Wisconsin, Arizona, New Hampshire
     

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