No, this is a lock. Robert Horry was a guy that half assed it through regular season after regular season and was lucky enough to ride three hall of famers' coattails to six rings... Oh, and Dan Majerle also has more three pointers in the playoffs than Michael Jordan...
PG: Nash, Iverson, Payton, Kidd SG: Kobe, Wade SF: Lebron, Garnett PF: Duncan, Horry, C: Shaq, Yao, Zo
did you forget a or j/k after the "he's a lock"? he is a ROLE PLAYER. if this was the role player hall of fame then yes Horry would be the first one in, but it's not. just because you've nailed clutch shots and been on good teams doesn't mean jack towards being in the hall of fame. and who cares if he has like 90 more 3's than jordan in the playoffs its not like he has carried his team to the playoffs or something noteworthy like that. seriously guys....he has averaged less than 7.5 ppg for his career. he is not a HOF quit saying he is.
You can make an argument that without him the teams he was on win 3 championships instead of 6, he's the only role player that can make that claim, but I see your point, I just have a feeling that he'll make it, eventually. Ginobili is the only player in history to win a Euro championship, NBA championship, Gold medal in the Olympics, and has a good chance to win a Gold medal at the World Championships.
Believe it or not, Dekembe Mutombo is a lock for HOF. Deke won four or five defensive player of the year awards and will end up having the second highest number of blocks in the history of the game. That's a lock for HOF.
Locks: C: Shaq PF: Duncan/KG SF: Lebron SG: Kobe/AI PG: Nash/Kidd Borderline: C: Yao/Deke (I remember some commentators saying there is no way Deke will be in the HOF, then I realized that the guy just didn't like Deke and continued to bash him the entire game, forget which team). PF: Dirk/Ben Wallace SF: TMac SG: Wade PG: Payton/Billups
horry and ginobilli are not going to the hall of fame. ginobilli needs to take his game to the next level. he's a very good player but this is the hall of FAME, not the hall of good players with rings. Locks that are still playing: Shaq, Payton, Kobe, Garnett, Iverson, Duncan, Kidd Guys who still have work to do but have the talent and potential: Lebron, Wade, Nash, McGrady
I think they take the whole career into account, but I've been wrong before, just ask my wife. In any event, if Chuck Daly can make it as a coach, then RudyT should be a shoe in. Yao could make it as a contributor. From the HOF website: Guidelines For Nomination and Election Into the Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame ELIGIBILITY Candidates must meet the following requirements in order to be eligible for Enshrinement into the Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame (hereafter BHOF): Player: A player must be fully retired for five years before being eligible for Enshrinement. He/she may then be considered for Enshrinement in the sixth year of retirement. Should a player come out of retirement for a short period of time, as defined by the BHOF, his/her case and eligibility for Enshrinement shall be reviewed on an individual basis. Coach: A coach must be either fully retired for five years or, if still an active coach, have coached as either a fulltime assistant or head coach on the high school and/or college and/or professional level for a minimum of 25 years. That person will then be considered for Enshrinement in the sixth year of retirement or 26th year of active coaching. Referee: A referee must be fully retired for five years or, if still an active referee, have been an active referee for a minimum of 25 years. That person will then be considered for Enshrinement in the sixth year of retirement or 26th year of refereeing. Contributor: A person is eligible for Enshrinement as a contributor at any time for significant contributions to the game of basketball. What constitutes a "significant contribution" shall be determined by the BHOF, its Screening Committee(s) or Honors Committee(s).
Yeah! but to all the guys that say that you've got to win a Championship to be considered as an elite player, you better be supporting Horry or you're a hypocrite. Horry has got to be either the luckiest guy in the game or the BEST role player of All time. I tend to believe the latter.
Those are just more examples of statistics he got by being a GREAT ROLE PLAYER on GREAT TEAMS. In fact, Horry's great playoff performances simply further highlight his AWFUL regular season effort... which will not get anybody in the hall of fame. Give me Vinny Johnson, Steve Kerr, and Mario Elie any day over "big shot Bob"... those other guys brought it EVERY night, even if it was pre-season... and were still vital role players on championship teams. Finally, the bottom line is.... if Horry was so great, he wouldn't have been GOTTEN RID OF as many times as he was. He's a glorified lucky charm who decides to finally give a rat's ass come playoff time.
Robert Horry is about as much a lock for the hall of fame as I am. When he makes it in, so will Kurt Rambis, Michael Cooper, Cedric Maxwell, yadda yadda yadda. He's not making it. You can pretend all you want, but you have to be a consistent starter in the NBA before you make it to the HOF.
lol...Horry will not be in the hall of fame. Thats just crazy. I'll throw another name out there...Elton Brand. He will make it for sure. And Alonzo should be in as well.
I agree. But how about Chris Webber? He's been an MVP candidate, and he was part of some very good Kings teams. Nowitzki, I think, will also eventually get in. Many others have a chance. Man, in the mid-90s I thought Penny, Grant Hill, and Kemp were certainly headed to the Hall.
geez somebody finally with some freaking sense. robert horry, ginobilli, and yao. two of those have no chance and i would say yao's is about 50/50 he just now finally hit 20/10 for the first time in his fourth season and he is already creeping up on 26 years of age. and he has a very long way to go for that. and i dont think anyone has mentioned amare s. yet. if he can come back and be the player he was he will have a much better chance the horry or ginobilli at this point amare should be a senior in college. so he is still very very young.
even though i like the nba more than mlb, i'm not nearly as familiar with what gets a person into the hall in basketball as i am with baseball. the basketball hall seems to be much less selective, so maybe i should expand my views on who is HoF worhty or not, but when i see names like deke, or brand, or mourning, or billups, or nash i just don't think Hall of Fame. if nash does this for maybe 2 more years, maybe he starts getting there, but i just don't think he did enough early in his career to be worthy. and for all the possibility of having 2 mvp's, that way overstates his value. he has never been a hakeem/duncan/shaq/jordan type guy who could be a dominatingly best player on a title team (i.e. guys who actually deserve multiple mvp's). and he's not going to be this year either. so is he still hall worthy? billups? i'm not sure how old he is but he wasn't much before detroit and the whole team is so good that you can't give too much credit to him. really you have to be careful to give too much credit to any of these detroit guys. they're all really good and complement each other perfectly, but individually are any really that awesome? like wallace, deke has all the DPOY's, but no offensive game. but denying #2 all time in blocks would be pretty rough i guess. brand, mourning? really good players, but did they ever really have hall of fame seasons? or maybe if i looked over all the players in the hall, it would turn out that they've had plenty of HoF seasons. and for anyone not considering AI a lock, i think you're crazy. and as for horry, it would be an insult to guys with great careers every where if he made it in. it would also be an insult to guys who worked hard on their games and guys who tried in the regular season. and yet, i'm not even sure i'd have a problem if he made it in. he's been so ridiculously clutch and so instrumental on 3 separate championship teams it's amazing. moreso than any other sport, the nba playoffs are far more important than the regular season when it comes to evaluating players. and while he no doubt road the coattails of 3 all-time greats, i don't think the value he brought as a 3 point shooting power forward who could defend the post can be overstated. he provided the invaluable service of spreading the floor for his post player (whereas a traditional forward wouldn't, though the rockets did win with thorpe) and yet was good enough and had quick enough hands to defend the post. anyway, i wouldn't vote for him to make the hall and he won't, i'm just saying i wouldn't feel bad as a fan of basketball if he did make it. and finally, webber. will the stigma of his unclutchess keep him from making it or does his brilliant all-around game get him in? he did finish #2 in mvp one year, he had a bunch of 20/10/5 seasons, and was, imo, the best passing big man in the game for quite a few years (his around the back bounce passes from the left block to cutters through the lane were amazing). depending on who else is in, i think i'd let him in. as for my locks, shaq, duncan, kobe, ai, kg, payton, kidd, lebron (he's gonna make it) wade, tmac, deke and nash i think will be looked at well on the ballot with wade and tmac most likely reaching lock status at some point in their careers.
Elton Brand is pretty much a lock. A couple more seasons of playing like he has been, and he will be in, no doubt. He has played 7 seasons. There was only one season in which he did not average a double-double (2004-05, 20 ppg and 9.5 rpg). For his career: 20.2 ppg 10.4 rpg 2 bpg 50% FG 73% FT Alonzo Mourning will be in as well. That guy was a monster during his first 8 seasons.
Has Elton Brand made an all NBA team ever ? To think of it, has Reggie Miller made any ? That's very weak profiles. On the other hand, guy like Jason Kidd made 5 all NBA first teams! That's an absolute lock for Hall of Fame. T-Mac is also close with 2 all NBA first teams. I can't remember the last player with 2 first team selections not in the Hall. (Penny Hardway is the only obvious one) Actually there is a fellow 2 time all NBA first teamer just induced into the Hall quite recently. David Thompson. Check out his career it wasn't very much superior to T-Mac. Granted dude had a cool nickname and is more deserving than T-Mac, but T-Mac is very close.
Doesnt matter. If you average a double-double throughout your career, you are in the hall of fame. Yes, making an All-NBA team is a plus, but by no means a prerequisite to the Hall.
Tell that to Artis Gilmore. ABA Stats (420 games): 22.3 ppg 17.1 rpg 55.7 fg% NBA Stats (909 games): 17.1 ppg 10.1 rpg 59.9 fg% Over his entire pro career, he has 24,941 points and 16,330 rebounds. And he has the highest career fg% in NBA history.
