I hope Jamaica kicks Mexico's a** in the finals. A 12 man security team might not be enough to keep Geiger safe from the wrath of Panama's fans.
Pretty sure that was the worst game, of any sport, I have ever seen in my entire life. Gutted for Panama.
Total failure by USA tonight. First the team fails and then Geiger LOL. Kidding aside, I thought the red was an okay call especially from Geiger's position on the field. The Panama dude didn't play the ball at all and made contact with his foreman to the face of a player playing only the ball. I've seen that called red all over the world. Stupid play from the Panama dude, best case scenario is 50/50 you fack yourself and your team with a crap play like that. The first pk was very soft but Geiger didn't invent anything. The player did play the ball from the ground (not allowed) and live I'm sure Geiger saw arm/forearm impede the ball. So again Geiger didn't invent something, the play did occur. The other factor to consider was the keeper was out and a Mexican player was very near the ball/area to possibly score. If Geiger saw a unintentional handball but one that removed a goal scoring opportunity, that's a pk (and red) all day. 2nd pk was clear but the offside was very close. Again a 50/50 call and anytime you play offside trap it either works or it fails miserably. It's always a risk because you're counting on the linesman to be perfect. It was not a clear offside at all so hard to take too much issue with the linesman. All that said, the Gold Cup is super shiet. I've said this all along. Crap tournament that no one of any importance in world football cares about. The entire tournament consist of only 2 teams that try and play football, both attack and defend, while everyone else bunkers for ww3. Playing 10 sometimes 11 players behind the ball, very little initiative. It sucks so bad to watch and it's crap football. Meanwhile US and Mexico actually look pretty good at the world cup because those teams actually play football against them.
You're confusion passion for drunks LOL!!! I thought it was a nice gesture. Geiger needed some moral support after the entire Panama team ran across the field together to attack him. I don't care how angry you are, that's super classless by the Panamanians. Drunks idiots in the stands have a stupid excuse but that behavior doesn't. It's just a game, relax.
Handball and looks intentional. Geiger let him off easy. <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/GoldCup2015?src=hash">#GoldCup2015</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MEXvPAN?src=hash">#MEXvPAN</a> This vine shows that the reffs call on the first pk was correct <a href="https://t.co/fYibcZbjL5">https://t.co/fYibcZbjL5</a></p>— Fut. Mex. Source (@FutMexSource) <a href="https://twitter.com/FutMexSource/status/624089693563432960">July 23, 2015</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
It did hit his arm at one point but intention is hard to guess there because he was off balance from being fouled when he was trying to clear the ball. If he wasn't off balance the whole time I think you could say there was clear intent.
You're delusional. Your own coach and captain said it wasn't a penalty. He's falling down. You cannot call something that nit-picky in the last minute to benefit the favorite team for the second game in a row. Overall, that may be the second-most embarrassing game in soccer this year, behind the River Plate/Boca Juniors game where fans pepper-sprayed River Plate players in the tunnel.
It's that same rag-tag bunch of drunks that somehow gets into every Mexico game! That band of international men of mystery. So glad they were able to travel from Boston to Atlanta in time for this game, too! They really beat the calm, respectful Mexico fans to the ticket counter for every game, huh? <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Wow, never seen a team photo like this. Panama postgame, via <a href="https://twitter.com/futbologia">@futbologia</a>. It's been quite the CONCACAF night. <a href="http://t.co/1VrWXvr80c">pic.twitter.com/1VrWXvr80c</a></p>— Brian Straus (@BrianStraus) <a href="https://twitter.com/BrianStraus/status/624082504262250496">July 23, 2015</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Watch his eyes, he is tracking the ball all the way to the ground up until he cradles. That eye tracking looks suspicious. Nope not delusional. Again watch his eyes track the ball. Also, a foul is a foul whether in the 1st or 90th minute. Only an incompetent referee allows the clock influence. Coach is just satisfying the sharks. There might have been a riot if he isn't sympathetic. And you forgot the part where he said it wasn't a penalty but those calls happen and don't happen in games all of the time. He mentioned Robben against his own team in the WC and also 2nd Gold Cup game against Guatemala where 2 clear pks and a handball were not called. Also, this replay is from a Mexican feed. Neither US feed showed a reply from the left side which sucks because that would have calm things down a bit for the media and the folks at home. Watch the right hand not the left. Combine that with him tracking the ball with his eyes the entire time. Now imagine you're Geiger who was on the left side, with clear view of the players eyes and right hand. It's a tough call but not a terrible call. Bottom line, Geiger is getting crucified unfairly. He didn't invent anything. Each play happened and he was allowed to make a call. The entire team chasing him across the field on the final whistle was super classless. Their entire team was super naive in their play by putting themselves in position where the ref could make a call. Also everyone (Panama, Ticos, USA fans, even many Mexican fans) is so pissed at Mexico but it's not the players/coaches fault at all. Trust me as a fan, I would be sooooo happy if Mexico left concacrap and took their money with them. Panama, Costa Rica, etc... can keep their ****ty Caribbean dominated federation. Without Mexico, it's Oceania 2.0 and they can have it all to themselves. No, no, no, you're way off. You see it's a gang, with assigned drunks in each city. They don't travel at all but they are very coordinated. They have you all fooled!!!
No, no it doesn't. He was falling and there was no clear intent at all. While I disagree with dumbartonass that he should take the situation into account (the ref can't and shouldn't think back to the reason that got mexico to this game in the first place and the fact that they're the favorite. None of that should matter.), it was a terrible call. To compound things, the ref should have walked off the field while the passionate and educated fans were throwing stuff on the field (again). The game should have been abandoned at that point and finished later on with no fans in the stadium. It's a real shame because Geiger was one of the better refs in the World Cup last year. I also disagree with anyone that says Guardado should have missed the pk on purpose. This is professional soccer in the region's major championship. Game changing bad calls happen all too often. You can't allow emotion to get in the way there. On the US game... What a bummer. It's not that we didn't play well. We mostly dominated possession and the defense played well. Limited the stupid giveaways and did well to slow their counterattack. I'm disappointed in Guzan's brain farts because he has performed very well up to that point. Yeah, the penalty is a bit questionable because that happens all of the time. It was the technically correct call...I'm just surprised it got called. You see keepers all of the time crossing that line on punts and throws. On the first goal, there was no reason for him to take that step out. The Jamaican forward had a defender on him. Guzan should've stayed on his line. The angle was still difficult but he could've gotten there had he stayed home. The bounces simply went Jamaica's way last night. That shot Bradley took at the near post was an absolute smash. The keeper saved nothing cleanly and the deflections went to the Jamaican defenders...with the exception of the one US goal. I was disappointed in Johannson. Many occasions he had on the ball to play it through to the wings or to Dempsey cutting through the back line...only to have him dribble into trouble. Credit to Jamaica. They did enough to win. I think, if they can finish, Jamaica will beat mexico. They're not intimidated and, if they can avoid being knocked out by flying projectiles, should be able to physically handle the mexican players.
Classy Panama. I find it funny not one person in here is admonishing Panama's behavior. It if was Mexico, OMG!!! you guys would be having a field day. That bias is why you can't entertain the idea that Geiger maybe got it right. Let's admonish drunk fools while we ignore Panama's behavior. Maybe there were drunk too!!! Honestly if there is justice, Panama should be sanctioned for both the major delay when refusing to play along with attacking referees. Maybe banned from WCQ'ing. You can't attack referees, you just can't. They did it has a team LOL!!! Good and bad calls happen all over the world, act like professionals.
You are correct. Panama was completely in the wrong and they should know better. One one hand, I get their frustration. Knocked out of World Cup qualifying in stoppage time on the last day. 89th minute horrible call with a lead and 10 men for a majority of the game. They just can't catch a break...but that's no excuse to ever run at and attack a referee. There should be suspensions from that. Regardless of that...Geiger got it completely wrong.
The entire time I was watching the USA game, I kept thinking it was Mexico playing. Dominating possession and opportunities and yet behind in the scoreboard. I've seen this movie thousands of times in CONCACAF where only a couple of teams try to play. I can't stand it which is why I always say Mexico should leave. No one in South America (maybe Bolivia) would play 10 or 11 behind the ball while in CONCACAF that is everyone's only game plan. Excluding USA, they will actually try to play some football against Mexico. It sucks so bad because neither team grows as a footballing nation either by playing that way or playing against crap like that. Lose lose for everyone involved. -edit- forgot to mention, i hope tim howard enjoyed his vacation lol Also, Panama threatening to skip 3rd place game. What a joke of a team.
The Panamanian player should never had tried to get back up and go after the ball. His goalkeeper was within distance to grab it. So in 240 minutes of soccer, Mexico can only score (with the help of referees) from the penalty spot. I hope Jamaica beats them like red headed step children, but I have an uneasy feeling if the game is close that Mexico will get the benefit from the refs.
Late to the party but geez this is simply ridiculous.. They don't even care about hiding their favoritism anymore. Like I said earlier, money truly talks. Not just the $$ from this excuse of a tournament but also the playoff game for Confed Cup and Confed Cup itself. Anywho, thanks for the giggles CONCAFAF, you always deliver.
his momentum was already coming forward to me when the ball was on the way up. doesnt seem to be a handball to me.
