Not openly concerned? Wait, so when reporters asked Yao and T-Mac if they wanted to keep JVG, and each of them said "Yes", that was not enough? Were they suppose to run a campaign to keep JVG in town? Give me a break. And of course there is some "truth" in this article. You have to throw in some facts to make bullcrap believable. That is what people do.
And since we is something like this allowed to stay on the GARM? I mean if this were in regard to a trade or something I imagine it would have been locked up long ago
Five star thread. It has it all. Third-hand information allegedly from a former Rocket bench player, some of it demonstrably false. Bashing of a former Rocket coach. All of the likely suspects taking the information at face value and saying that it proves their point all along, and using it to make more attacks on the former Rocket coach. The other likely suspects getting offended and defending former Rocket coach, then bashing former Rocket bench player. Personal attacks. Returned personal attacks. Mad hilarity.
are you a moron or something? from the original post from your own post on page one: i guess you win. it never said in the original article that his dad died last year.... it just says recently (hey, 10 or 11 years ago could be recent!) and implied his mother was sick last year because of his father's death (implication, last year, or recently, at least).
Well, this DOES sound like the way VSpan talks ... everything is so exaggerated, conjured up out of thin air, blames everyone but himself. Talk about delusional. The Spurs can HAVE him. I had hopes for VSpan, but his delusions of grandeur kept him from ever doing what it took to succeed, excel and transition. He's still living on the mountaintop of one great game. He had plenty of opportunity to look "better than Steve Nash or the next Ginobbli or all-star," but he never looked like that in games. So, maybe the next thing he'll claim is that the NBA networks created an animation clone of him, so everyone would think how bad he is ... good grief. - Parker says VSpan is better than Vaughn or Udrih, and ready to be the primary backup immediately - Spurs GM believe he is "another Manu." - the press printed made up information because JVG told them to. - CD promised him 20-25 minutes of playing time - at training camp, he was told he would start over Rafer - JVG told him he would not play because JVG's wife had ordered him not to play. - JVG said to go back to Greece where they still play basketball in barns. - VSpan says Yao and McGrady requested VSpan to start because he was always abusing the other point guards. - JVG told a reporter to make up a story that VSpan played horribly in practice. - JVG told CD to "go FU himself" - Battier says VSpan was the 3rd best player on the team. - JVG says Dennis made me watch tape of VSpan, and I was so pissed off when I saw how good the guy was. - So, JVG made it a point to bench VSpan just to piss off the management. - VSpan's agent met with CD, then CD told JVG to play VSpan or be fired - JVG posts on clutchfans.net all the time, they believe every word I say, I control the whole opinioin there with the way I post and manipulate them. The fans are all a bunch of stupid losers and I own the Chronicle reporters and the radio talk guys." - He says that Yao told him, "in practice you are every bit as good if not better than Steve Nash is, Jeff is just so damn mean and stupid." And that "when the season ended I told the owner if he did not fire the coach I would go back to China. I simply cannot stand his ridiculous crap and antics anymore, I have been taking this crap from him for so long now." - A person named "Dennis" it was said left the Rockets and joined San Antonio and personally set up the trade of Scola and Butler just to get Spanoulis because he "believes I can be an all star." (shaking head ... can't believe anyone here would align themselves with someone spewing out this crap)
Talk to VSPan and Novak? Lol, they're rookies. Sit down rooks! Rookies don't deserve to play unless they've proven themselves, at least in the regular season, not the meaningless summer leagues. I myself can't stand watching rookies make mistakes. That's why whenever I coach high school or middle school, I play no more than 9 guys. I usually go 8 since you won't find as much talent at that level. THey did talk to Bonzi and he said even if JVG was coach, he would have come back because Houston's the best place for a championship and what happened last season was his fault entirely. In other words, what Bonzi essentially said was "Damn I missed out on 40 million dollars and I got fat over the summer. Time to go visit the psychologist at House of Pies." I talked to Snyder at TMac's softball game. My friends were playing on his team, headed by Kase Lawal's company. He had nothing bad to say about JVG at all. In fact, he said JVG is the best coach he's played for thus far in the NBA. He said JVG is the first coach who made him realize what's important to him, and how to go about achieving goals in life. Sloan and Scott just bashed and benched him. Didn't even give him chances. He said he understood that the timing of his injury was really bad, and that's what messed up his playing situation last year. He wasn't even fully recovered until March. There's a reason Yao's not a coach. He said he thought Snyder should have played. THen who shouldn't have? Obviously Alston is the first who comes to mind, but WE HAD NO BACKUP PG! Head is a turnover machine and the offense never ran smoothly with him running the 1. So let's do the math. At the 2 and 3 positions, there are a total of 96 minutes. Battier plays 35, and tmac play 39, so they both total 74 minutes. That leaves 96-74= 22 minutes for someone off the bench. What would you rather have: 1) play Luther the 22 minutes, which is what you've done all season long, 2) bench luther and his 45% 3 pt shot all of a sudden and go with Snyder's athleticism and horrible shooting? It's not like we needed his defense, or 3) play Luther 11 minutes and Snyder the other 11 minutes, which is r****ded because this is the playoffs, nobody does that unless someone gets hurt. Obviously, option 1 makes the most sense. Too bad Yao couldn't use his brains on that one and think for himself. Unless he wanted Snyder to play point guard Anyone's going to be pissed after that game 7 loss. We win that game, "Hallelujah, JVG is the greatest coach ever. After we traded SWift and Gay and mike james bolted for Minny, we all picked lottery. JVG for president!" Dikembe? THe guy did an even worse job than Yao guarding Boozer. Obviously someone of Dikembe's stature wants to play forever, but face it. He's a grandpa. He can't do anything but block and rebound and elbow people. He averaged 9 minutes a game in the playoffs. That's enough. And Mutombo loves JVG. he just thought he should have played more instead of Yao, which I disagree with. If TMac wins game 7 for us, hallelujah jvg. Mutombo and Juwan both credited JVG for their rebirths of sorts after Yao went down. Not even Riley could get Mourning or Haslem or Walker to do anything like Juwan and Mutombo did. Once again, TMac had no help. He and yao aren't leaders. Now we have 2 leaders in James and Francis, on the court. Here's something I found: ""In the first half, when the Jazz took control of the game by building a 16-point lead that was 10 at intermission, McGrady touched the ball on 43 possessions and got to the paint with aggressive drives on seventeen of them. Aside from a stretch of forceful play early in the third quarter that helped the Rockets get back into the game, McGrady reverted back to jump shots in the fourth. Among 19 fourth-quarter possessions on which he touched the ball, T-Mac got to the paint on a minimal five possessions. The staggering totals indicate why McGrady needed to get to the hoop. For the game, he touched the ball on 81 possessions and used aggressive drives to get into the lane on 29 of them. Those 29 trips resulted in 12 field-goal attempts (10 makes), six drawn fouls, and seven assists. On all other shots, McGrady connected on 2 of 13." So why did you settle from 20 feet out in the 4th quarters of games 6 and 7 Tracy? Another poor finish, another coach fired. This time, he's got James, Francis, and Scola covering his back though. There are no excuses this year. I expect nothing less than a Finals appearance.
presto! Now adding fuel to the fire on that first page blog. This from the Chronicle Feb 14th, 2007 with exact words from JVG. Now tell me this isn't an asinine thing to say about your own players? All Greek in Houston With Tuesday's trade for Jake Tsakalidis, the Rockets have both Greek players in the NBA, Tsakalidis and guard Vassilis Spanoulis. "It will give someone for Billy to (complain) to, so that will be good," coach Jeff Van Gundy said. "We'll just sit him right over there and Billy can (complain) to him about how he's getting (shafted). That will be good." Told that will make him even more popular in Athens, Van Gundy said., "I like Billy a lot more than they like me." Spanoulis said he was looking forward to having another Greek player on the team and introducing Tsakalidis to the Houston Greek community. "I know him," Spanoulis said. "I never played with him. He can be very good guy for our team and good for me to have some company here, more. I can show him." Asked who was the Rockets' best Greek player, Spanoulis said, "I don't know. Different positions."
it's not clear anythign you say makes any sense...what does A have to do with B in regards to his fathers death and the email clearly being incorrect about it?
Adelman is a flop if he cannot win the 2008 NBA championship this August in 2007 because JVG could have done that last month if he was not given an extra brown envelope.
well i do not know about playmaking, but the person that came out with that BS have tons of creativity.
If the Rockets don't make it to the Finals this year, then Adelman is a flop. Earlier, I blamed everything on TMac. But now he has help. THere's no excuse for not finishing. There's no excuse to pick game 7 to get tired. But Adelman is a great coach, only other guy I'd want coaching this team other than JVG. He should have a ring on his finger from 2002. Damn refs.
I suppose that A------->B if you understand the path. Like in a court of law, the weight of the evidence backs up the story. A comment like the one JVG made in public to the press for all the world to hear backs up the more colorful ones in the article that JVG likely said behind the scenes.
What's very interesting is that about right when this "article" was written, Fox 26 SA suddenly out of nowhere reported that the Spurs have held off for now on signing Udoka even though he was initially offered the deal and accepted it as was reported. The timing of this seems to have occurred right after the alleged meeting between Parker and Spanoulis. I talked to a friend of mine that follows all of the Spurs info and he says that it's no secret that Udrih is as good as gone if Spanoulis would play because they want him to be the backup and Vaughn just isn't good enough. Hmm, on another note THIS: This according to Spanoulis was the reason given for why Jeff Van Gundy told him "you will not play as long as I'm in charge. Go back to Greece where they still play basketball in barns." Man I lost in on that one. LMAO and THIS: This in contrast to him actually abusing Rafer Alston in practice. From Spanoulis' story this was confirmed by the Rockets former GM CD who was told to "go fu** himself" by Van Gundy when he told the coach that after watching practice he saw Spanoulis was by far the best point guard. LMAO man I was drinking some tea and spurt it all over. This is the funniest thing on this forum for sure.
Well, that's a thoughtful and respectful input. keep it going. Here is my thank you note: don't spread the BS you suck, keep here clean.
Agreed! Nothing like a little V-span talk to get the juices flowing on the BBS. I hope he does come back and play for the Spurs because I feel it would settle a lot of crap around here and yes the BBS would be rock'n' if he came back and blew up for the Spurs or if he came back and was a bust either way this needs to be found out. Did JVG hold him back? Was he the best guard prospect on our team last year? These are the questions that must be answered! The proof is in the hotdog!
Funny how everyone just thinks that Adelman only play offense with no game plan on defense......... Reason why we think JVG is a flop, because of his win now mentality, he stunted the growth of novak, vspan, bonzi etc This cause the predicament that he faced at the 7th game, where he cannot put anyone else to change the game. He should have a good basis on how the team will play and faced, if he think the bench is trash, then just get someone before the trade deadline. He did what he could with the team he have, its time he moved on and salvage his pride it be better for us too. Luckily thats the decision he took.
