[funny] Tea party candidate calls tea party "dumbasses"

Batman Jones · Jul 28, 2010

Major said:

2. Address what argument? That somehow these tea partiers are uniquely angry and relevant? There have been lots of angry protest mobs throughout American history. You have yet to suggest anything that makes this one unique, except that they seem to think they are important because of their name.
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This is really the key here.

The Tea Party seems to believe that losing an election and then being pissed off about it is somehow unique or that their opposition to a sitting president makes them uniquely patriotic.

Every president encounters these sorts of protests. There is nothing special about this particular protest group except that they say there is. In fact, their marrying of their own disappointment at having lost with something as grand as our founding fathers and their struggles and triumphs is not just silly, it is a delusion so grand as to merit a professional psychological intervention. Especially considering the fact that they've demonstrated quite clearly that they have no idea what they're even for or against (since most of their complaints would have been much more appropriately addressed to Bush than Obama) -- only that they don't like Obama.

Not liking the president, with no clear policy-based grounds, is not patriotic. It's just bratty.

weslinder · Jul 28, 2010

rhadamanthus said:

Of course, you can take solace in that the above "contract" (haha) is still better than the texas state GOPs contract (cue weslinder).
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Right on cue:
http://www.rlc.org/2010/06/25/anti-gay-platform/

Republican Liberty Caucus of Texas Calls on Party Leaders to Address Problems with Anti-Gay Platform Planks

CONTACT: Republican Liberty Caucus of Texas
(512) 656-8011

AUSTIN, TX – At the state Republican convention earlier this month, Texas Republicans opted to abandon the Republican tradition of respecting the Constitution and protecting individual liberty and privacy rights by adopting a platform which includes planks attacking the civil liberties of certain Texans.

The platform advocates policies which would make it a felony to perform a same-sex marriage in Texas, which would re-criminalize sodomy and which would take away the rights of gay parents in custody cases. These proposals are contrary to the values of most Texans and run counter to the Republican tradition of vigorously defending individual liberty.

The Republican Liberty Caucus strongly opposes the Texas GOP platform’s anti-gay and anti-liberty planks. We call for the state party to take action to address this problem. While it may not be possible to repeal or change the party platform, the state leadership should issue a clear statement that the platform is non-binding and does not represent the core, shared beliefs of Texas Republicans or of our candidates.

In a year in which we are looking forward to extraordinary opportunities for a great slate of Republican candidates in Texas, it would be a terrible mistake to shackle them to a platform which will alienate many potential supporters. This platform will weaken the party at a time when a strong coalition of Republicans and independents is needed to stop the radical agenda of Democrats in both Austin and Washington.

“We need to focus on keeping the government out of our pocketbooks; especially in Texas,” said Texas RLC Chairman, Joey Dauben of Ellis County. “There are far more pressing problems for the GOP in our state to worry about. While I personally disagree with same-sex marriage from a Biblical perspective, marriage is a contract between individuals and God, not with the government. If we want government out of our wallets and our boardrooms, we should also keep government out of our churches and our bedrooms.”

The Republican Liberty Caucus believes that cutting government spending is more important than wasting our limited resources on policies that open Texas to lawsuits and treat some citizens in a different manner than other citizens. Texas RLC members believe divisive social issues should be put on the back burner and instead the focus should be on solving real problems.

We call on the state party to send a clear message to voters that the this platform does not represent the highest ideals of our party and that as a party we support individual liberty and equal rights for all Texans.
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giddyup · Jul 28, 2010

Groogrux said:

of course, that's not what you were arguing. nevermind the fact that comparing obama to hitler and stalin is not exactly the greatest example of respect.
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I wasn't arguing about it because I understood that's what they are doing. Sorry but you can't have it both ways: criticize them for not working for change and then criticize them for working for change. Do you see how you guys stack the deck in this place?

giddyup · Jul 28, 2010

Major said:

1. It is certainly irrelevant to the modern Tea Party. Just like WW2 and the Civil War and any number of other important events in American history are irrelevant to them. The took the name because it was catchy.

2. Address what argument? That somehow these tea partiers are uniquely angry and relevant? There have been lots of angry protest mobs throughout American history. You have yet to suggest anything that makes this one unique, except that they seem to think they are important because of their name.
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Where did I say they were unique? I say they have a right to do their thing as they see fit and exist within the law. What are some of the other angry mobs you are thinking about? Did some prove to be important and relevant in the course of history? Did some not? Time will tell.

Rashmon · Jul 28, 2010

I really miss intelligent, principled, cerebral conservatives like William F. Buckley. I may have disagreed with him, but was able to learn, understand, and incorporate certain views he expressed into modifying my own political paradigm.

We have a few here that I respect, but many on this board represent near caricatures of everything that is troubling with current-day Republican conservative political thought: Limbaugh, Palin, Beck, Perry, Teabaggers, et al

There was a time when I considered Patrick Buchanan a near-fascist, but now I find it oddly amusing when I hear him as a voice of reason, in relation to the aforementioned cabal.

Can anyone point me toward some current conservative thinkers who are not nuts?

Malcolm · Jul 28, 2010

giddyup said:

I posted this in the other thread and no one had the guts to address it's content. Nor did anyone attack me for posting it so it must be legitimate. Can's wait until this guy is identified. Notice the crispness of his shirt; wonder where he gets his dry cleaning done?

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I JUST KNOW PICTURES SPEAK A THOUSAND WORDS! YET THESE ARE ACTUAL TEA PARTY MEMBER WITH SIGNS!!!

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Rocketman95 · Jul 28, 2010

giddyup said:

I wasn't arguing about it because I understood that's what they are doing. Sorry but you can't have it both ways: criticize them for not working for change and then criticize them for working for change. Do you see how you guys stack the deck in this place?
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do you realize how dumb this is? are you arguing that it's not fair to point out hypocrisy?

BigBenito · Jul 28, 2010

Rashmon said:

Can anyone point me toward some current conservative thinkers who are not nuts?
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I enjoy reading Andrew Sullivan.

rhadamanthus · Jul 28, 2010

weslinder said:

Right on cue:
http://www.rlc.org/2010/06/25/anti-gay-platform/
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kudos. I doubt anything will come of it, but kudos to them nonetheless.

giddyup · Jul 28, 2010

Groogrux said:

do you realize how dumb this is? are you arguing that it's not fair to point out hypocrisy?
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What are you talking about? You find them demonstrating for change and you mock them for both content and effort and then criticize them for not doing enough to shape the outcome of their representation.

You are wanting to lock them down.

giddyup · Jul 28, 2010

Malcolm said:

I JUST KNOW PICTURES SPEAK A THOUSAND WORDS! YET THESE ARE ACTUAL TEA PARTY MEMBER WITH SIGNS!!!

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Like the guy in the video?

I would imagine that some of those holding signs are real teapartiers. That doesn't define the tea party though as it is "undefinable!" It has been proven that there are plants in the tea party crowds for sure.

weslinder · Jul 28, 2010

Rashmon said:

Can anyone point me toward some current conservative thinkers who are not nuts?
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Most people here are going to point you to the anti-Republican conservatives, nothing wrong with that, I have a lot of sympathy for those guys. George Will and Peggy Noonan still write really good, non-crazy, mainstream conservative commentary. P.J. O'Rourke is crazy in a good way. I really like Tucker Carlson, but he's certainly letting a lot of petty stuff out, so it takes a filter right now.

ima_drummer2k · Jul 28, 2010

Mr. Clutch said:

I think most of the hatred of the Tea Party comes from liberals who hate conservatives anyways.
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I'm a conservative who hates the Tea Party.

I really don't understand what they are so angry about, besides the fact that a Democrat is in the White House. Whenever I try to actually figure it out, all I get is a bunch of vapid bumper-sticker slogans and clichés. Most of them just blindly mimic the political opinions they read on Facebook, chain-emails, or from the HACKS they hear on local conservative talk-radio. Many of them are new to politics and just want to make their friends think they are more politically aware than they really are.

Seriously, they're making us all look bad. I can't wait for the whole movement to just fade away into oblivion like the Reform Party. Hopefully, that happens sooner rather than later. Maybe after the 2012 elections...

Phillyrocket said:

Just can't agree with this. The Teabaggers are supporting the same policies that are the cause of all their complaints. They complain about high taxes due to "government spending" like say the stimulus which included the making work pay tax cut as well as many more tax cuts for the middle class. That tax credit is set to expire which is hilarious because I can just see teabaggers lining up to say Obama is increasing your taxes if it is not renewed, plunging our children into debt if it is, and it sucked anyway because it was part of the stimulus package. Obama can't win because no matter what he does it will be spun as a negative.

Obama promises to let the Bush tax cuts expire for those making over $250k a year and he's demonized for it since now it will hurt small businesses. But yet small businesses are struggling to survive and to attract and retain talent because they cannot afford health insurance for their employees, and the Tea Parties are okay with that. The state run insurance pools through the Socialized ObamaCommieCare that will allow small businesses to get better rates are Hitleresque. Not to mention that terrible economic condition we are in due to the vast amount of resources concentrated in a very few hands. The rich pay less in taxes as a % of income than the middle class and yet the teabaggers support the continuation of this to their own ignorant detriment!

The Teabaggers are an abomination of misinformation and hypocrisy. They have no leadership because they have no message. If you want lower taxes then demand healthcare reform or a deep cut in the military budget because that's where all the money is going. Instead they think cutting back on TANF and kicking out all those job thieving illegals will suddenly balance the budget.

They have an AGENDA but just like trickle down, privatizing SS, and deregulation it doesn't work when applied to reality. Comparing Teabaggers to the original TeaParty is revolting.
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Damn, you put it MUCH better than me. I don't usually rep non-contributing members, but I'll make the exception for this post.

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