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[Fußball] World Cup 2006

Discussion in 'Other Sports' started by DrLudicrous, Jun 2, 2006.

  1. arno_ed

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    No standing up for himself would have been scoring the winning goal, or penalty. What good is "standing up for yourself" when you loose the world championship because of that, that is just not smart.
    There are different ways to stand up for yourself, and giving a headbutt, and getting send off the field in the most importent game in four years is just not one of themIMHO
     
  2. DonnyMost

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    Some people dont put that much stock into sports and winning. Its just a game.

    Also, he technically "got away with it" since no one saw the headbutt, he wasn't going to do that to intentionally get kicked out. The refs assistant busted him on the jumbotron, which everybody knows isn't supposed to be part of the officiating crew.

    "SAY NO TO RACISM"
     
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  3. Mr. Brightside

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    I feel empty. I suddenly have too much time on my hands now that there is no WC. What do I do?
     
  4. slickvik69

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    PARIS, July 10 (Reuters) - France captain Zinedine Zidane was apparently called a "dirty terrorist" by Marco Materazzi before he head-butted the Italy defender in Sunday's World Cup final, the anti-racism group SOS Racism said on Monday.

    "According to several very well informed sources from the world of football, it would seem that the Italian player Marco Materazzi called Zinedine Zidane a 'dirty terrorist'," SOS Racism said in a statement.

    Zidane, the son of Algerian immigrants, was shown a red card after the incident and Italy went on to win on penalties after the match was tied 1-1 following extra time.

    The Paris-based group called for an inquiry and said world soccer's governing body FIFA had recently toughened sanctions against racism.

    "It's for this reason that SOS Racism asks in a determined fashion for FIFA to shed light on this altercation and that sanctions laid out in the official rules be applied should this be the case," SOS Racism said.

    Neither Zidane nor Materazzi have spoken in public about what had passed between them before the incident. French television reported that Zidane would talk about the incident "in the coming days".
     
  5. arno_ed

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    It doesn't matter how much stock you put into a game, the fact is that Materazzi tried to get Zidane to do something like this, and he succeeded, do you think he will loose one night sleep over how tough zidane can be if you offend him(besides the night sleep he looses because he is celebrating his World Championship). It is not a good move to let you provoke yourself like that. Materazzi probaly didn't mean anything he said, he just wanted to provoke him, and it worked. Therefor it was the most stupid thing zidane could do. He did exactly what Materazzi wanted, so he will probably do it again if he has the chance. What did he win because of the headbutt?? nothing.

    I do want to say i do not approve of what Materazzi has done, it was a low move, and i have no respect att all for people who make racist comments.
     
  6. Stack24

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    Either way all of it will be controversial because the side judge is not supposed to make that call with the ref....the ref should have made it alone...but i guess they bent the rules a bit.
     
  7. walterw

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    How could you be so sure that Materazzi's only purpose was to provoke Zidane and get him retaliate? There is strong possibility that he meant what he said or he has some personal hatred against Zidane.
     
  8. SamFisher

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    There's a strong possiblity that Materazzi meant what he said and actually suspected Zizou of being a dirty terrorist who participated in terrorist activities?

    Doubtful.

    Given Materazzi's history, this incident isn't surprising:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HblsV-urHg&search=materazzi
     
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  9. arno_ed

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    This is a serieus question?? Samfisher anwsered the question for me. Why do you think he suspects zidane to be a terrorist? Provoking people is (sadly) part of a lot of sports, and if people react like zidane did it will stay a part of a lot of sports. IMHO thinking it was anything more then provoking is overreacting

    Stack24, i believe it was good that he fourth official saw it and told the ref, that is the way to see if somebody is flopping, or if somebody gives a headbutt, or kicks somebody when the ref is not looking, it is a good thing IMHO, it is more fair .
     
  10. rage

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    That punk needs to be banned for life.
    If he wants to try kick boxing or hockey, go for it. There is no place for it in this game. It's played and watched by millions of kids.
     
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    I think too we deserve it and definitely agree on the amazing Cannavaro. I don't really know if we were really the best team overall(i think Argentina was the best team) but certainly our defense was awesome and you know just like in basket the defense wins championships. About the final i obviously must admit we were lucky. In the second half our players were extremely fatigued and France take advantage of that even without Zidane but somehow our superb defense managed to don't let France score. Penalties are always a lottery and suffering, this time they finally work for us! Scoring 5/5 is pretty rare and you know we definitely deserve a pk victory after losing 3 times in a row in the nineties.

    On Zidane: Zizou is really unjistifyable to me, he is not new to similar acts so shame on him, whatever Materazzi has said.
     
  12. walterw

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    If "dirty Terrorist" was really what Materazzi said to Zidane, I would rather
    think that's racial smack than the real accusation of the "terrorist" part.

    Looking back this Materazzi' guy's history, I don't think he had the IQ to provoke Zidane the way it was.
     
  13. Stack24

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    I would like that too if it was always part of the rules. If i am not mistaken the side judge can't make that call as of right now. If they want to put it in the rules where the side judges can help with flops and stuff like that...then i am all for it..but if it was done on the fly during that game then it is not right. Zidane definitly deserved the red...no question about it...but just how it came about is what i questioned in general....if i am wrong about the rules of the officials someone please clarify it for me.
     
  14. Saint Louis

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    I thought I remember the announcers saying that the ref could consult the side judge, but the final decision was up to the ref. The announcer was more worried that the ref saw a replay on the jumbotron and made his decision based off the replay, which is not supposed to happen.
     
  15. RunninRaven

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    Not to make fun of your skill with the english language, italian rocket, but it struck me as humorous that this line seems to succinctly sum up Houston Rocket fans and the Yao Ming draft. :)
     
  16. Stack24

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    Oh okay..i didn't hear that part it was loud at my friends house when it was going on....yeah if he saw it on the screen then that would be definitly messed up.
     
  17. DrLudicrous

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    One of their duties is to help the ref make calls, the ref has the final say in the matter though.

    http://www.fifa.com/en/laws/Laws6_01.htm

     
  18. michecon

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    The French are robbed.

    The first header Materazzi goaled, he pushed his defender down. It's a slight push, but could be called. Then there was that second PK that never been called.
     
  19. RodrickRhodes

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    well at least he went out on top on an individual level

    Thanks for doing the research Dr.Ludicrous

    yeah this guy is an amazingly dirty player...it looked like he was trying to end shevchenko's career in those "highlights"...i think zidane actually might've acquired a lot of respect from people for going after materazzi's dirty ass

    if it was something racial as most people are reporting then i think zidane was justified...not saying he should've done it, but i understand....there's a difference between normal trash talking and making racist comments...i am 100% sure that if the n word was used by any non-black player and directed towards any black player in the nba the reaction would've been much worse....my only complaint is that zidane didn't completely lay him out
     
  20. Rocketman95

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    Of course, the first one should not have been called either.
     

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