this thread has 23,138 views. wow. all hail the power of Doc Rocket. in the normal world, if he goes to the movies or eats at a restaurant, he might just be some guy cutting you off in the parking lot. but here, at clutchcity.net, he is an awesome force to be revered and held in awe. booyah, Doc Rocket.
Just to clear up a couple of points- I think I might not have been clear enough on my post about SAR. I think he would flourish as a contributor (read second or third scorer) NOT as a main guy. I think it is too early to tell if he can be the man. He is relatively young still, and it takes some longer than others. New Girl - you say that the Clippers have done some good basketball related things - how many times have they been good enough to sniff the asses of the 8th seeds over the last decade? You say that it is a good thing that they didn't sign all those players, yet if you think they weren't worth signing to long term contracts, then why did they even draft them? Ron Harper was good until he had an injury (I believe) that limited his explosiveness, but he still has quite a few rings if I am not mistaken. I think it is unfair to pass judgement on MoT until a couple of seasons pass to allow him to heal properly. Then we can fairly judge his ability. I don't know what you think of him, but I have worked him out, and I can say for the record the dude has a good work ethic. In fact, he hurt his achilles playing ball trying to keep in shape for the up-coming season. I would like to see him get more physical, but let's give him some time. Remember Karl Malone? When he came into the league the guy couldn't hit a free throw or a jumper to save his life, BUT he worked on his game and developed into one of if not the best PF of all time. Give MoT a couple of years and see how his game evolves. You are crazy if you think Brand will sign anything other than a one year deal with the Clips to become an UFA next season. He is on record as saying that he WILL NOT resign with the Clips unless they pony up for their key players. Well, CM has said he wants out, Miller will run away as fast as he can, Kandi may be back but he is a punk. Odom may stay but will that be enough to keep him? I think that unless the Clips radically alter the way the do business, Brand will also run away as fast as he can. You must also have a very low opinion of the people in LA, as you state the Clips don't care about winning, they care about building a young team with promise and selling tickets based off their promise. How long would it take for a group of people of reasonable intelligence to figure out that supporting the Clips, no matter how promising their young team is, is a complete waste of time. Even if you fell in love with their players, they wouldn't be around long enough for a cup o' coffee the next morning.
From what I hear, the Rockets main color will be RED! And to prove this, visit rockets.com and check out the new arena photos. One of them shows the seats being installed, and their RED! Thank God!
I've watched NBA basketball for nearly 10 years now, I fully understand how Clippers franchise works. wait...nearly 10 years ago...as in the 93-94 season or the 94-95 season??? because it seems you missed out the last time the Clips actually went to the playoffs which was back in like 92-93... and if you do fully understand please enlighten us on why they can't make it to the playoffs with that much talent. Please tell me what good players EXACTLY they let go. Ron Harper? Danny Manning? Mo Taylor? Come on you gotta give Sterling credit for not matching those contracts. Give him big credit for that. Mo taylor...ok you got us there but you make it seem as though Ron Harper and Danny Manning were bad back then. If you would have watch basketball 2-3 years earlier than the 10 years you claim, you would have seen that Danny Manning made the all-star team when he was playing w/ the Clippers and Ron Harper was one of the 10 best SG's in the NBA. Argue all you want, but the BOTTOM LINE IS: Sterling always had the personal that could have made his team playoff contenders AND profitable. He had the resources but like an idiot, he didn't secure them. AND Harper and Manning didn't ask for max contracts either. Explain to me how your best players just wanted to be paid for their hard work/services and you don't bother rewarding them w/ the money they helped you accumulate. 1. You underestimate the power of money. There is only a small chance Brand will go the same route of Kandi. Hey he saw FIRST HAND how Kandi lost a ton of money for not signing last summer! No team is going to give Kandi the max this summer again. Sorry but I'm pretty sure the consensus on this board is that Brand is 10 times the player Kandi is just by his work ethic alone 2. What sell to you if you're a Clippers fan? A team with a resigned Brand + Odom + a promising rookie like Melo Anthony or TJ Ford (by my calcucation, that will still keep Clippers a payroll under 30m) or a team with Cuttino Mobley, Eddie Griffin + rookies (a payroll about 25m)? A few more millions a year will probably put 2000+ more fans (which means more than a few millions), it's good business! Sterling's surely better than me in maths, he will surely get it worked out. You know what sells if you're a Clippers fan who haven't bought tickets to a single playoff game in 10 years??? MAKING THE PLAYOFFS!!! And I hope for you that last sentence isn't true. I am not saying that there will be no moves. But please NOT those unrealistic moves. THIS I WILL AGREE ON. but it's hard not to dreamcast. but i also remember that in the real world, getting brand is slim to none. I am asking those who labled Sterling and Clippers as stupid, Just when did Clippers EXACTLY do stupid things? Chandler for Brand? Good! Miles for Miller? Good! Not resigning Ron Harper, Danny Manning, Mo Taylor, Kandi? Good! So please Clippers, cheap? Yes. Don't care about winning? Yes. Stupid? No. Please get the fact straight 1st, people. And yeah Boston is a stupid franchise. But what can we rip them? Baker? LOL. In business sense it's not dumb. but you aren't sterling's kid now are you? so in that sense it doesn't benefit you at all that he's making millions. BUT it does hurt the league, the fans, and the people watching that a guy can amass such a good amount of talent--talent that can grow together and actually be something--and just let it go just for the sake of money. The ethics aren't there and that's why it's dumb. how can you praise him for his business sense while he's stealing from the league? and how is he stealing from the league? simple 1. go under the salary cap 2. no luxury tax the majority of his profits is that he steals from the people that actually care and want to win. the paull allens, the maloofs, the mark cubans of the NBA actually want to win and would put forth the money to do it. and are they losing money? i'm pretty sure they're not.
From what I hear... Cuttino Mobley, Eddie Griffin, Terence Morris, Kelvin Cato, and a 1st Round Draft Pick are heading to the Clippers FOR Elton Brand and Quentin Richardson!
Let's acknowledge, for the sake of argument, that the Clips have let players go who did NOT deserve to be paid. OK? Then explain, please, why they were there in the 1st place? The Clips have been in LottoLand for a full decayed + sorry, I mean decade +, so why have there not been more players with mad skillz there? The Clips' problems are many, they are deep and they deserve 'eminent domain'. Let the Association revoke Sterling's ownership and find a real buyer. Let the farce end before even Sterling steps in horsecrap and comes out with a golden winner.
Did anyone else notice that the "Doc Rocket" Rumors is exactly what posters have been talking about? So, if all does transpire then did the Fan's on this BBS system force these issues because we are the fans...or did management make these decisions because it was what they thought were needed moves. Perhaps a combination of both. So perhaps fans do have a say... or Perhaps "Doc Rocket" likes to play games.
I agree, Brand will probably be kept for another year but if the right deal comes along don't be suprised if Sterling jumps at the chance... expecially if it makes his team less expensive. So, don't be so sure about Brand. Although, Brand is a decent power forward, one in which i believe could really help this team, he has not proven himself to be a true number 1 option for the clippers. It was Sterlings vision that Candyman and Brand would be a strong offensive front court with Odom as the swing man. They thought that was enough to contend. Then they added miller. Still nothing. So, perhaps, knowing Brand will most likely not sign or sign cheap with Clippers next year...perhaps Sterling is looking to make a deal so he gets something in return.
Interesting. Very interesting. Where are you hearing this? Mobley would fit in with their high flying offense and losing Q opens the spot for Mobley. EG is a high potential cheap contract guy who could possibly play 3 or 4 or even 5 depending on how he fills out. Cato is a good replacement for Kandi. TMo is fodder and the #1 pick is always a good chip. Can't be for next year, cause we can't deal that pick having dealt this year's but I don't see that as much of an issue. Brand becomes your 3rd option with Franchise and Ming. I know very little about Q but it looks like he would be servicable as a 2/3 backup. That way either Posey or Francis starts at 2 depending on what you do the rest of the offseason. The only thing I don't like about the deal is the fact that it uses up all of our trading chips except Rice. And I would rather get Miller back instead of Q but pipe dream there. I'd rather get Miller and Brand and find the backup 2 elsewhere. This might be even overpaying a little for essentially just Brand, but obviously we are all biased so this might be what it would take. All in all, good effort IMO on the trade thought.
Last time I checked our first round draft pick belongs to the Grizz so this trade is false Plus noway would I even go near this trade.
Where did you hear that trade rumor? If I am the Rockets I do this deal in a heartbeat. This young team does not need anymore 1st round draft picks. Morris is trade filler. Cato is not needed here with Yao taking the bulk of the minutes. And then you have Brand/Richardson for Mobley/Griffin. Brand is light years ahead of Griffin and Mobley might be only marginally better than Richardson. I am doing this trade if I am the Rockets.
We only missed the playoffs by one game, and thats without YAO not having the opportunity to participate in the Training Camp. So why would u over haul the whole team for one game. I think we should go for GILBERT ARENAS, he is a point guard that would fit in perfect with the Rockets, and that would mean that our backcourt will be unstopable.....................and we could trade mobley for a three or something!!!!
I would pull that trade in a heart beat: Brand/QR for however keep Juaquin had listed. BTW can anyone explain how to put a quote form another poster in one of my posts? I am not the most computer literate.
It's the little icon above the post you are reading with the arrow to the right (the one at the far right). Now please go to the other thread and vote for me as the most respectable and helpful poster so that I have one vote at least .
