I don't want Hedo for Battier but the Celtics also have quite a bit of offense too in addition to their defense. We need more offense without sacrificing our defense.Without having both of them you can't win a Championship.
The suns got a lot of fire power too look where it got them. Unless you get Ron Artest in return, I say Battier is UNTOUCHABLE. And its messed up that you guys are criticizing his play in the Utah series when he was on 1 foot. Outside of landry he has the most heart on this team. You do this and Kobe drops 50 on Hedo, Tmac has to guard him, the tmac gets "tired" in the 4th quarter and rightfully so. I live in San Antonio and the Spurs have NEVER NEVER criticized Bowen for not scoring. Shane is not here to score. We got our 3rd scorer in Scola. With yao back he is going to get a lot more open looks and room to operate. Everybody just "CHILL" and quit trying to bust up this team.
Excpet Hedo's +/- this year was 6.8 compared to 3.5 from Battier. Their NET PER by posotion Hedo also beats Battier hands down.
I do not think this is a good trade because Battier do wayyy more than Hedo in terms of winning games. He is fundamentally sound in almost everything he does on the court...knocking down 3s consistently, playing tenacious defense, hustling, taking charges...ect.. Battier fits better because he makes team pay for leaving him wide open or doubling Yao or Tmac. You can't ask for a consistent player like Battier. I think he almost fit the Rockets perfectly. The only thing he needs to do better is the ability to drive and attack the basket. So i do not agree giving away Battier. Hedo is more of an erratic player...the thing i like about him is he attack and can create his shot....but Battier's advantage outweight Hedo. I think what the Rockets need is an upgrade on PG or PF...especially PG..other than that, they're set. Don't shake things up just for the sake of changing, remember the Rockets failure to move ahead is because Yao was injured at the end.
Battier does not have the ability to drive and attack the basket because of poor ball handling ability. Having a healthy Yao will help a lot but it's not going to be enough.PG does need an upgrade,a younger backup C is needed as well,but Tracy cannot have Head as his backup,there is a need for another swingman.
they do have a defensive philosophy in ANY year nash arrived. our defense was tremendous BEFORE battier or tmac was here. it remained tremendous when tmac arrived. it remained tremendous when battier arrived. and it will remain tremendous when anyone leave. we have a defensive mindset regardless of who we put out there on the floor. we have a group of guys who hustle and put out the effort to want to play defense (can you say that about the suns?). again, hedo is a pretty good playmaker. tmac does not have to touch the ball on every play. he'll gladly take a paul pierce like role that is being seen in the playoffs. he'll score 20 ppg but will do the dirty work now b/c he knows he doesn't have to create EVERY time down the floor and does not have to score a lot for us to win. well, do the lakers have tremendous defense? they have a "good" defense but a tremendous offense. offensive balance with 2 superstar scorers on our team can go A LONG WAY. it's not like the suns where they do not have a go-to scorer (or near a legit one anyways). and, how many kobes are there? there's only one. how did battier do against the harprings or ak47s in the past 2 playoffs? how come he didn't shut them down and tmac had to guard them? furthermore, we all want tmac to stay focused throughout a game. guarding scrubs is not going to help with that. by forcing him to guard good scorers, he has to remain focused or he'll get burned b/c any good scorer can take you to school in the NBA. a focused tmac is always a good tmac.
This may be a bit off topic, but I still hope someone can explain if the salary of Jackie Butler (2.5mil) and Justin Reed (1.5ml) can be used in a trade? Their salaries will come off book next year... Thanks!
I believe the answer is that they are NOT available to be moved. That once you cut a player, you can no longer use his contract in a future trade. DD
This would sort of be a robbery...but JJ sucks and i don't want him especially after he airballed a wide open layup
He needs an opportunity to play, and needs to be in a motion offense...he would thrive here in Houston, IMHO a much better player than Luther Head. DD
The trade looks very sexy, but I wouldn't do it..Hayes is replaceable, but I don't think Battier is, at least not for Hedo and JJ(plus we still have Novak on the bench)...Yeah, Shane's stat line isn't the greatest, but I love all of the little things that he does for us...the stuff that doesn't show on the stat line.
That's mostly cause you have an unhealthy need for token white guy over rated shooters I tease because I love.
lol we've had a defense mind for the past 4 yrs, we havnt gone any where, its time to change stuff up and see what happens. We need to do something, Hedo is awesome on offensive, i would LOVE to have him on this team. do the trade asap
good post, we have been defensive minded team for past several years and we haven't won anything. it is time to change something and see what will happen
fellas, if there an opportunity to swap some combo of our role players for a 3rd member of our desired "big 3", you do it. he who hesitates is lost. I've said it before and it bears repeating: our team is built around 2 unreliable, injury prone players. no amount of intangibles or hustle or great defense will overcome that. TALENT trumps all. get turkeyglue, if possible. while you're at it, trade tmac or yao for a more reliable (if even lesser) superstar. tmac for baron, for example. tmac, our pick, a future #1, and scola for the #2 pick (beasley) and dwade. not saying its a possibility, but something along those lines. yao for aldridge, outlaw, and two #1s. yao for melo, jr smith, blake (is he still there?) and a #1., etc. either way, we are a team with fundamental structural flaws. to build this house we need a sturdy foundation. the pretty window dressing will come through FAs and drafts. as is, though, we're going nowhere because our stars can't stay healthy enough to form continuity WITH EACH OTHER! we can speculate and hope all we want about how good we'd be "if we were healthy". the reality, though is we never have been in this era and may never be. why not give ourselves a chance to do so by at least having 1 or 2 stars that can bond on the court? I don't a flip about bonding in china. so, yea, get turkeyglue. that'd at least be one component we could rely on. but let's not stop there, please. this team reminds me of a house I recently looked at. built in 1907, potential quadplex or massive R-1 single family unit. 4 freaking levels. only asking 130k. sounded great but the foundation was crap, has been a crackhouse/bumhouse for the past 2 years, and is now in a *****ty area. so for all its perks, there are too many structural and functional obsolesence issues to make it a worthwhile venture. the old owner hung on too long...shouldve sold it before it started losing its value and making it almost impossible to get maximum return. sell high!!!!!
we're almost that team, now. our assets are diminishing and we seem to want to hold onto them in hopes that they "fix themselves". in the meantime we add window dressing bit players like aaron brooks, head, scola, landry, battier, et al. the real problem is greater than that. we need foundation repair! all those other parts are imminently tradeable, imo.
