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Friedman: Paging Uncle Sam

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Ari, Mar 9, 2009.

  1. Ari

    Ari Member

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    For those who live overseas, how true are Friedman's observations?

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/25/opinion/25friedman.html

    Paging Uncle Sam

    By THOMAS L. FRIEDMAN

    It is very useful to come to Asia to be reminded about America’s standing in the world these days. For all the talk in recent years about America’s inevitable decline, all eyes are not now on Tokyo, Beijing, Brussels or Moscow — nor on any other pretenders to the world heavyweight crown. All eyes are on Washington to pull the world out of its economic tailspin. At no time in the last 50 years have we ever felt weaker, and at no time in the last 50 years has the world ever seen us as more important.

    While it is true that since the end of the cold war global leaders and intellectuals often complained about a world of too much American power, one doesn’t hear much of that grumbling today when most people recognize that only an economically revitalized America has the power to prevent the world economy from going into a global depression. It was always easy to complain about a world of too much American power as long as you didn’t have to live in a world of too little American power. And right now, that is the danger: a world of too little American power.

    Somewhere in the back of their minds, a lot of people seem to be realizing that the alternative to a U.S.-dominated world is not a world dominated by someone else or someone better. It is a leaderless world. Neither Russia nor China has the will or the way to provide the global public goods that America — at its best — consistently has. The European Union right now is so split that it cannot even agree on an effective stimulus package.

    No wonder then that even though this economic crisis began in America, with American bad borrowing and bad lending practices, people have nevertheless fled to the U.S. dollar. Case in point: South Korea’s currency has lost roughly 40 percent against the dollar in just the last six months.

    “No other country can substitute for the U.S.,” a senior Korean official remarked to me. “The U.S. is still No. 1 in military, No. 1 in economy, No. 1 in promoting human rights and No. 1 in idealism. Only the U.S. can lead the world. No other country can. China can’t. The E.U. is too divided, and Europe is militarily far behind the U.S. So it is only the United States ... We have never had a more unipolar world than we have today.”

    Yes, many Asians resent the fact that Americans scolded them about their banking crisis in the 1990s, and now we’ve made many of the same mistakes. But that schadenfreude doesn’t last long. In random conversations here in Seoul with Korean and Asian thinkers, journalists and business executives, I found people really worried: Could it be, they ask, that the Americans don’t know what they are doing, or, worse, that they know what they are doing but the problem is just so much bigger than anything we’ve ever seen?

    This is a region where Western brands carry great weight, and for people to see giant U.S. financial brands like Citigroup and A.I.G. teetering is deeply unnerving.

    The big trading nations, like South Korea, are particularly nervous that America will succumb to economic protectionism, which would undermine the global trading system.

    “There is no one who can replace America. Without American leadership, there is no leadership,” said Lee Hong-koo, South Korea’s former ambassador to Washington. “That puts a tremendous burden on the American people to do something positive. You can’t be tempted by the usual nationalism. When things don’t go well, most people become nationalistic. And in the economic world, that is protectionism ... We are pleased to see President Obama is not doing that. Americans, as a people, should realize how many hopes and expectations other people are putting on their shoulders.”

    And that’s just on economics. President Obama’s first big security test could come here — and soon. North Korea has gotten crazier than ever; it has been made even poorer by the global economic crisis and by the withdrawal of aid by the new South Korean government. Now the North is threatening to test one of its Taepodong-2 long-range missiles, which may have the capacity to hit Hawaii, Alaska or beyond.

    The North last tried such a test in 2006, but the rocket exploded 40 seconds after its launch. If the North does test such an intercontinental ballistic missile again, American forces will have to consider blowing it up on the launch pad or shooting it out of the sky. We never should have allowed the North to get a nuclear warhead; we certainly don’t want it testing a long-range missile that could deliver that nuclear warhead to our shores, or anywhere else.

    Never more inward-looking, never more in demand: that’s America today. This moment recalls a point raised by the Johns Hopkins University foreign policy expert Michael Mandelbaum in his book, “The Case for Goliath.” When it comes to the way other countries view America’s pre-eminent role in the world, he wrote, “whatever its life span, three things can be safely predicted: they will not pay for it; they will continue to criticize it; and they will miss it when it is gone.”
     
  2. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    I've been all over the world and was in Asia just a couple of weeks ago. Yes, his observations are quite correct. We are the role model and leader to the world. That is why is was such a dissapointment to everyone outside the US, that we elected a moron twice. It is also why we have to lead by example and live up to our own ideals.

    Everyone is waiting for Obama to lead the world out of this mess.
     
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    The bottom line is, nothing can replace the $10 trillion US consumer market right now. So for the world, especially the export-heavy East Asian nations, it's imperative that the US pulls out of its recession.
     
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    But isn't that a massive problem for the system? It is clear now that the U.S. consumers can NOT continue on living beyond their means, at least for the good of themselves and their country. At the same time, you are saying that the export-oriented Asian powers (which is all of them really: China, Japan, S. Korea, Taiwan) cannot really thrive unless Americans continue to live like a bunch of drunken sailors?

    If the world was dependent on American gluttony all this time, then, well, sounds like a disaster was waiting to happen all along. Maybe the 'system' is not worth fixing, and should instead be replaced altogether with something much more sensible.

    But yeah, I would not hold my breath
     
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    Obama is the new world leader?
     
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    Notice I said right now. Everyone agrees that US needs to spend less and China needs to spend more. 20 or 30 years down the road, the Chinese consumer market, $1.5 trillion now but growing at double digits, may provide us with a new growth engine, which along with the US and Europe would give the world more balanced trade. But to get us out of the crap-hole we are in now, the US needs to start consuming again. The system needs to be fixed, but it can only be done gradually. Shock therapy won't work.
     
  7. Ari

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    I will have to disagree there. Almost every tectonic shift in U.S. history (or history of the world, for that matter) happened because of a major 'shock' to the system, or to deal with a major crisis.

    I don't know how smart it would be to try and fix a broken system, when all that energy and resources should instead be invested in a "new way" of living.

    Frankly, I think Americans have lost faith in the system and it is beyond repair at this point. Big Business is over and done with, the public will NEVER again trust the brainiacs on Wall Street. The public trust has been breached, and it cannot be restored. I think America is entering a new phase where the middle class will adopt the Japanese virtue of saving and I really don't think there is going back to the hay days of what I shall refer to as the "consumer era" of the last few decades. This is no ordinary recession, my friend. This is a complete and utter exposure of the 'paper tiger' that is the U.S. economy. The so called "fundamentals" of the economy have been proven, beyond a shadow of doubt, to be hopelessly corrupt and weak.

    If you have not already, spend an hour of your time to watch this documentary of how the collapse came about. All it took was one pillar coming down, and the domino effect was in full force.

    <script type="text/javascript" src="http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/js/pap/embed.js?frol02c1f60q74f"></script>
     
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    thx for the vid! very educational
     

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