Freedom of speech apparently only for liberals

I called a guy who said awful crude things about people who've done him absolutely zero harm an ass. It's one of the few times I've called someone a name, and there isn't hate in my heart. It's too bad there's a misunderstanding.

But I do think the guy was acted like an ass. I'll stand by that.

 

I apologize.

I am very familiar with Phil Robertson and his family and I feel he has been presented to the public unfairly. You and I will never agree on the content of the article, he made statements that were viewed as harsh and if you sat and talked with him, you would come away with a different idea of what he's saying. He's a stand up man and could handle being called an ass and I should not have made the comment to you.

 

wrong thread

 

Yes I do have compassion, and I do have an acceptance of homosexuals, but I don't have to have empathy or approve of their sexual preferences. Why is that even necessary?


I do love them as my neighbour and pray that they can find their purpose in life, and I never made any jokes or meme's in this thread regarding gays, so once again your argument is rendered moot.

And so what if someone does make a joke about being gay. Eddie Murphy made millions of Delirious & RAW by making funny jokes about everything from Whites, African Americans, Mr-T and even homosexuals.

So have many other comedians and late night hosts.

That was them using their right to freedom of speech and expression.

Why is my opinion Unacceptable? Because it doesn't mesh with your opinion?

Am I calling for the execution of homosexuals? Am I calling for Homosexuality to be outlawed? Have I condemned the practice?

All I said in this thread was:
A) Freedom of speech, Freedom of expression and freedom of religion is a right for all people…not just a chosen few. Some speech is not going to be deemed acceptable to all groups, but tough.

There are harsh words spoken by both sides.

Agree to disagree, get over it and find a way to move on.

B) Some people don't just rely on The Bible or religion to disagree with homosexuality. Some just find the practice 'icky' or not their cup of tea.

Do they not have the right to feel this way?

Do they not have the right answer questions about their opinion in a truthful manner, without being victimised for expressing their own personal feelings?

Must everyone conform to one line of thought to be deemed acceptable?

C) To each their own, & I don't hate homosexuals, I'm just sick of the loony left wing political correctness gone mad. There are always going to be people that oppose your views or lifestyle no matter what you do…just deal with it and move on, instead of always being the squeaky wheel begging for more oil.

and

D) This case smells of hypocrisy & double standards.


If you want to be gay, good luck to you.
If you want to champion gay rights, that's your right to do so.
If you want to be a Westboro loony and picket funerals and hold God Hates 'Whatever' signs, (I personally have an issue with what what their doing but...) that is also your right to do so.
If you want to go naked for fur, picket for higher wages or protest the war in Afghanistan you have a right to do so…and y'all should be proud to live in a country that gives you that right, there are many countries where you can be imprisoned or punished for speaking your mind, questioning those in authority or for just having a difference of opinion. Just ask my friend Mathoom.

Once again, I don't hate any person because of their colour, creed, sexual orientation or religious beliefs, but that doesn't mean that I'm always going to agree with all of their views or beliefs…and that is my right.

God bless y'all.

 

it's "memes"

no apostrophe necessary. I'm surprised bigtexxx didn't correct you.

I directly quoted your feeble attempt at humor.

yeah, I can see all those comedians now, sitting up there saying "WHAT'S THE DEAL WITH ANUS VS VAGINA?!" and getting some good laughs out of it.

 

So much funny here from the clown show and the religious fanatics. If only it jived with reality. I now await the backpedaling and disappearing act by the usual suspects here. Thanks.

When You Defend Phil Robertson, Here's What You're Really Defending
http://www.seattlepi.com/technology...Defend-Phil-Robertson-Here-s-What-5085222.php

Let's get a few things straight about what Phil Robertson said that got him in trouble.

Defenses of Robertson, the star of Duck Dynasty suspended for his remarks in an interview with GQ, have focused on the idea that he was just crudely expressing the sincere, Christian view that homosexuality is sinful.

Condemnation of Robertson therefore amounts to condemnation of views that are part of Christian doctrine. What are Christians to do about the fact that their beliefs require them to condemn homosexual acts? Why are cultural elites oppressing Christians by making it forbidden to express their views?

Robertson's defenders should read his comments again, because their defenses are off-point. If you're defending Robertson, here's what you're defending:

Robertson thinks black Americans were treated just fine in the Jim Crow-era South, and that they were happy there. "I never, with my eyes, saw the mistreatment of any black person. Not once. Where we lived was all farmers. The blacks worked for the farmers. I hoed cotton with them. I’m with the blacks, because we’re white trash. We’re going across the field.... They’re singing and happy. I never heard one of them, one black person, say, ‘I tell you what: These doggone white people’—not a word!... Pre-entitlement, pre-welfare, you say: Were they happy? They were godly; they were happy; no one was singing the blues."

Robertson thinks the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor because they didn't believe in Jesus. "All you have to do is look at any society where there is no Jesus. I’ll give you four: Nazis, no Jesus. Look at their record. Uh, Shintos? They started this thing in Pearl Harbor. Any Jesus among them? None. Communists? None. Islamists? Zero. That’s eighty years of ideologies that have popped up where no Jesus was allowed among those four groups. Just look at the records as far as murder goes among those four groups."

Robertson hates gay people. Robertson in 2010: "Women with women, men with men, they committed indecent acts with one another, and they received in themselves the due penalty for their perversions. They’re full of murder, envy, strife, hatred. They are insolent, arrogant, God-haters. They are heartless, they are faithless, they are senseless, they are ruthless. They invent ways of doing evil."

This last one is key. My inbox is full of "love the sinner, hate the sin" defenses of Robertson's 2013 remarks. But Robertson doesn't love gay people. He thinks they're, well, "full of murder." His views on gays are hateful, inasmuch as they are full of hate.

As a side note, it's remarkable how often these things come as a package. Robertson's sincere doctrinal view about the sinfulness of homosexuality comes packaged with animus toward gays and retrograde views about blacks and non-Christians. It's almost as though social conservatism is primarily fueled by a desire to protect the privileges of what was once a straight, white Christian in-group, rather than by sincere religious convictions.

You might recall that conservatives are currently trying to figure out what to do about the fact that the Republican Party performs quite poorly with the growing share of voters who are not white, straight Christians. They think some of it has to do with economic issues. But then they're scratching their heads, trying to figure out how Mitt Romney lost the Asian American vote 3-to-1 even though, by Republican "maker-vs.-taker" metrics, Asian Americans are disproportionately likely to be "makers."

Non-whites and non-Christians and gays keep getting the sense that, even setting aside policy, conservatives and Republicans just don't care for them. The Duck Dynasty episode, with Ted Cruz and others rushing out to defend Robertson's honor, is just another example of why.

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drone viewers

 

What you don't get is I don't necessarily agree with everything that the guy said, but I support his right to say it…as long as it isn't threatening or inciting people to commit violence against a particular group.

Most gay people I've met are decent blokes, and you wouldn't or couldn't tell that they were gay unless they told you…So generalising the entire group as 'murderous'

etc is going a bit over the top, but he still has the right to express his beliefs under the provision of freedom of speech.


Sorry about memes coming out as meme's across110thstreet, Autocorrect.

God Bless y'all & enjoy the rest of the day / night depending on where you are.

 

I haven't seen anyone say he didn't have a right to say it. What some of guys are pedaling is that it's not hateful and it's a liberal political correctness conspiracy. Seems pretty obvious that it is hateful and any company with an employee who publicly make comments like this has the right to fire him, immediately. Some of you have tried to whitewash comments to mean what you want them to mean but his comments are there in black and white and they're full of ignorance, stupidity, and hatred. He has every right to say them and everyone has every right to call him a bigot and lobby A&E to have him taken off the air.

 

ID13

of course he has the right to express those beliefs. just like the Westboro Baptist Church does. we aren't in disagreement there.

like I said in my first post, I fully support anyone's right to free speech.

no one's free speech was violated here, though.

so how did we get from there to you praying for gay people to find their purpose?

 

I'm not running anywhere, I stand for what the Bible says.

 

well the b and the v are next to each other.

autocorrect? you gave Izak a pass, after all, texxx.


your boy Hippocrates is on the line.

 

Notice how bigotexxx completely avoided the content of the post to focus on spelling? Nobody caught that. :grin:

Roll on clown show, roll on!

 

So bigotexxx, I await your denouncement of Phil Robertson's homophobic and racist remarks since you started this thread and have been defending him from jump street. Own your performance here clown show. I'm guessing we're in for a long wait or some more spelling corrections perhaps.

 

It's like when I type bigtexxx and it auto-corrects to bigotexxx. My iPad is clearly genius.

 

Logic failure #3 I see. Unexpected. :grin: