C'mon, there are professional careers that REQUIRE higher education, but we have kids coming in here at work with 4 year degrees taking the position of someone who is leaving via retirement/promotion, whatever, that are taking jobs a high school grad could do for the same pay. The only difference being these kids are saddled with massive debts they will paying on for 20 years. Over the past 25 years as the push to educate the American populace has risen the amount of jobs that REALLY require that college degree has not, essentially these kids are being pushed into the same jobs that their High School educated parents were doing. The difference between the two, the kids have student loans they are strapped to pay back... the only people benefitting form that system are the ones writing the loans and those who back them, which is the government. This 2 year CC program will just allow the government to skim a little off the top form the tax payers.. .same with the ACA. It's bull**** and not good for us.
I think CC is actually a cost effective solution. Its a lot better than devry and those for profit places.
The downside is people waste their time with ****ty community college and get very little out of it. The problem is community college sucks.
The fact that our educational system sucks is not an argument against making it free*. It's an argument for improving it. * - conditions apply
I don't have a problem subsidizing education as long as there is incentive for the schools not to suck. Community college pretty much sucks and I don't support expanding it.
Not everyone can get into a selective 4 year university. Community college is a great alternative for those who can't. It's also a great stepping stone. I know quite a few individuals who saved plenty of money doing two years at a community college taking all their gen eds out of the way and then transfering to a 4 year university. And yes, as previous posters have mentioned, for profit schools are a joke.
Community college may "suck" for someone like you or me who were accepted right off the bat to a 4 year university and were either able to afford it or have it subsidized through scholarships or the GI bill, but for many it doesn't "suck". It's a great way to save money and have a second shot at being accepted into those 4 year universities. If it is utilized as a stepping stone, it definitely doesn't "suck". Community college is perfect for this type of individual: Someone who out of high school might have relatively high SAT or ACT scores but a ****ty GPA. Community college is a perfect opportunity to show those 4 year schools that the student is capable of earning a high GPA if effort is applied.
And that will be payed back ten folds once these "free loaders" get a better paying job when/if they graduate. If you had a choice of either giving them free education in lieu of welfare, which one is a better investment for the country as a whole?
Eh **** it who cares....let's send everyone to community college for free. It's probably good simply from a networking perspective for the people attending.
Community college is a stepping stone for some people, it weeds out those that don't have the dedication for a 4 year college. I have known a number of people that were not sure about CC, attended CC and ultimately graduated from a 4 year college.
Community college is a way for children to delay adulthood by another two years after high school, and Obama is happy to oblige by letting them live off the taxpayer. It will be very popular. Free stuff always is.
What in the **** are you talking about? Do you really think people attending community college for two years before moving onto another university for their bachelor's degree are more childish than the entitled frat bros pledging their entire freshman year at UT?
How is trying to further your education make you a child? Community college is an alternative way to further yourself and like most things in life, the results depends on what you put into it.
Maybe show us the enrollment statistics for I hate women and have never read a course catalog for an accredited college.
Yep. Exactly what happened to me. 2 years at North Harris CC, enabled me to delay my adulthood- that was the only reason I went there, not b/c I couldn't afford a 4-year at the time, nope, it was solely a decision based on arrested development. Or, you're a f**king dumbass. Hmm..... yeah, #2 sounds better.
Just like Farmer welfare, corporate incentive. Skilled workers for a better economy? Who needs that right? Keep going, you're jokes are killing me.
It's not really a coincidence that the countries with the highest quality of life index don't monetize education, health care, or defense. And in many cases, they invest heavily in family care/social services. The idea that you should put so many barriers between your citizens and their access to healthcare and education is stupidity of the highest order. Healthy educated people are productive and industrious. Derppppppp
The government should subsidize more hour-long dramas about project managers, retail pharmacists and insurance underwriters, maybe then every indecisive college grad wouldn't inflate the demand for JD and MBA slots.
