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Free Agent Targets?

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by htownbball, Jul 21, 2007.

  1. htownbball

    htownbball Member

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    Aaron Rowand should be our #1 target. Philly will be content with not resigning him because they feel Michael Bourn is ready to take over. Pence has done a good job in CF, but we have no outfielders ready to come up to the majors in the next 2 years. He made $4.35 million this year, and he'll probably demand 5 years $45-55 million (depending how much the Ichiro deal affects the market). He turns 30 later this year. Biggio and Ausmus will probably retire, which leaves around $9 million.

    I think we should resign Jennings. Not because he deserves to be back, but the pitching market is so thin and we can't get much for Jennings right now. If we let him walk, Purpura will not put the compensation picks to good use, and Purpura will get even more flack for making the trade.

    It's starting to look like Mark Loretta is the only guy Purpura may be willing to trade. We won't be able to get much for him. The Mets and Padres are frontrunners. If the Mets would do Loretta and Albers for Aaron Heilmann, we should jump on that. Heilmann has been a reliever, but he could be put back in the rotation.

    Qualls and Wheeler look like they're staying. If Wheeler could get Kelly Shoppach and Andy Marte from the Indians, that'd be nice. Marte used to be the top 3B in the minors, but since being traded by the Braves, he's really struggled. We can replace either reliever with Paul Estrada.
     
  2. DOMINATOR

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    rowand or byrnes either is fine by me. next year i hope they go after peavy or santana
     
  3. MadMax

    MadMax Contributing Member

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    SD will trade Peavy. He's made it pretty clear he doesn't intend to go back to SD. And he's made it pretty clear he wants to play closer to his home in the deep south. Given all that, I can't imagine they're gonna risk getting nothing for him.
     
  4. DOMINATOR

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    here is the list. asterisk means option for 2008

    First Basemen
    Sean Casey DET
    Tony Clark ARZ
    Jeff Conine PHI
    Julio Franco NYM
    Kevin Millar * BAL
    Olmedo Saenz LAD
    Mark Sweeney SF
    Mike Sweeney KC

    Second Basemen
    Marlon Anderson LAD
    Craig Biggio HOU
    Luis Castillo MIN
    Damion Easley NYM
    Mark Ellis * OAK
    Marcus Giles * SD
    Mark Grudzielanek* KC
    Tadahito Iguchi CWS (if not signed to extension)
    Jeff Kent * LAD
    Kaz Matsui COL (if not signed to extension)
    Luis Rivas CLE
    Jose Valentin NYM

    Shortstops
    David Eckstein STL
    Cesar Izturis * CHC
    Ramon E Martinez* LAD
    John McDonald TOR
    Neifi Perez DET
    Juan Uribe * CHW
    Omar Vizquel SF

    Third Basemen
    Russell Branyan SD
    Corey Koskie * MIL
    Mike Lamb HOU
    Mike Lowell BOS
    Greg Norton * TB
    Abraham O. Nunez PHI
    Alex Rodriguez NYY (may void after 2007)

    Catchers
    Brad Ausmus HOU
    Paul Bako BAL
    Michael Barrett SD
    Gary Bennett * STL
    Ramon Castro NYM
    Wiki Gonzalez WAS
    Jason Kendall OAK
    Jason LaRue KC
    Paul Lo Duca NYM
    Damian Miller MIL
    Chad Moeller CIN
    Jose Molina LAA
    Josh Paul TB
    Jorge Posada NYY
    Ivan Rodriguez * DET
    Yorvit Torrealba COL
    Javier Valentin * CIN

    Outfielders
    Bobby Abreu * NYY
    Moises Alou * NYM
    Milton Bradley SD
    Eric Byrnes ARZ
    Mike Cameron SD
    Brady Clark LAD
    Jeff DaVanon ARZ
    Adam Dunn * CIN
    Jermaine Dye CWS
    Darin Erstad * CWS
    Kosuke Fukudome, Chunichi, Japan
    Luis Gonzalez LAD
    Shawn Green* NYM
    Eric Hinske BOS
    Torii Hunter MIN
    Geoff Jenkins * MIL
    Andruw Jones ATL
    Bobby Kielty OAK
    Rob Mackowiak * CWS
    Orlando Palmeiro HOU
    Corey Patterson BAL
    Aaron Rowand PHI
    Reggie Sanders KC
    Brad Wilkerson TEX

    Starting Pitchers
    Kris Benson * BAL
    Paul Byrd * CLE
    Shawn Chacon PIT
    Matt Clement BOS
    Bartolo Colon LAA
    Scott Elarton KC
    Josh Fogg COL
    Casey Fossum * TB
    Freddy Garcia PHI
    Livan Hernandez ARZ
    Jason Jennings HOU
    Brian Lawrence * COL
    Jon Lieber PHI
    Kyle Lohse CIN
    Wade Miller CHC
    Eric Milton CIN
    Odalis Perez * KC
    Joel Pineiro * BOS
    Kenny Rogers DET
    Curt Schilling BOS
    Carlos Silva MIN
    Julian Tavarez * BOS
    Brett Tomko * LAD
    Kip Wells STL
    Randy Wolf * LAD
    Jaret Wright BAL
    Carlos Zambrano CHC
    Victor Zambrano NYM

    Relief Pitchers
    Jeremy Affeldt COL
    Armando Benitez FLA
    Hector Carrasco * LAA
    Francisco Cordero MIL
    Rheal Cormier CIN
    Vic Darensbourg DET
    Elmer Dessens MIL
    Scott Eyre * CHC
    Trevor Hoffman * SD
    Jason Isringhausen* STL
    Todd Jones DET
    Jorge Julio COL
    Joe Kennedy OAK
    Byung-Hyun Kim FLA
    Scott Linebrink SD
    Rodrigo Lopez COL
    Ron Mahay TEX
    Trever Miller HOU
    Mike Myers NYY
    Joe Nathan * MIN
    Joel Pineiro * BOS
    Chris Reitsma SEA
    Mariano Rivera NYY
    Rudy Seanez SD
    Mike Timlin BOS
    Mike Venafro MIN
    Luis Vizcaino NYY
    Bob Wickman ATL
    Scott Williamson BAL
    Jay Witasick TB
    Kerry Wood CHC
     
  5. DOMINATOR

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    i meant i hope astros pursue him as a free agent. can't imagine them trading for him when they probably wont be in the contention.
     
  6. Refman

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    I agree with this. I just wonder what, if anything, we have that SD would take in trade. Perhaps Jennings and a prospect or two (not named Patton or Towles)?

    Also, is he signable?
     
  7. MadMax

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    1. he wants to play closer to his home in the south;

    2. roy oswalt is among his best friends.
     
  8. htownbball

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    dude if peavy really wants to come here i will personally polish his knob after every game. not really, but thats how excited id be.

    mike lowell has really rebounded since that terrible year in florida. gold glove caliber as well. he's getting old though and is past his prime.

    linebrink is a FA huh...they could use mike lamb. then we can trade qualls/wheeler. unless we cant resign linebrink that is.

    what do people think we can get for loretta and maybe a few prospects?
     
  9. MiniMing

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    This is a good thread.

    It's time to rebuild, they need to make some trades before the trade deadline and throw out some dough for some free agents next year.
     
  10. Refman

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    Should I take this as a yes? :D

    Of course, that is assuming that Roy is here next season (I still am not convinced that is a given).

    What do you think we'd have to give up in a trade, SD knowing he likely isn't coming back next year anyway?
     
  11. DOMINATOR

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    i could see peavy wanting to go to the braves too.
     
  12. htownbball

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    screw the braves man. if they hold on to andruw, they wont wanna open up the wallet for peavs
     
  13. xishi

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    adam dunn anyone?
     
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    As much as i'd like to bring the guy and his HR power back to Texas, i couldn't afford a bunch of new TV's. I could just imagine a few of the couple hundred times per year of him striking out, and then me being frustrated and throwing something at the TV. :(
     
  15. MadMax

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    i think roy will be here. he's super-high value...all-star player whose contract is below market value.

    not sure...and my understanding is he has one more year on his deal with SD. so it's possible they'd move him next season at the deadline.
     
  16. redgoose

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    To answer the original question, i really think it depends on whether we want to win or we want to compete playing .500 baseball. Since we have no immediate farm system help, i don't see us winning unless Drayton is willing to bust out the checkbook and spend around 150 million in payroll on next year's team. Someone is gonna have to educate Drayton that when you don't have a talented farm system to help the club, that's when you have use your check book if you really want to win. With the impact FA's probably wanting Barry Zito and Ichiro like contracts, it could get very expensive if we want to win the next few years.

    That's my reasoning for blowing up the team and rebuilding. No need to get in that debate here. I just don't see Drayton filling the holes with the $$$ it will realistically take to win. He'll probably sign a couple Loretta and Lamb utility type players that have been around the league to convince the average fan he's trying his best to win.

    Therefore, i have no idea who he will target since it's probably whatever Purpura is whispering in his ear. No doubt Purpura is telling Drayton what he wants to hear, (We have a great team that has just underperformed this year), so he can hold onto his job as long as possible. Then he can get one somewhere else when he inevitably gets fired since he'll have a few years under his belt.
     
  17. kaleidosky

    kaleidosky Your Tweety Bird dance just cost us a run

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    it'd be great to get peavy.

    i like rowand, don't think he (or byrnes) is worth 9-10 mil per year..

    (rowand is way too injury-prone for sure)
     
  18. Zac D

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    Two things: first, it's not an absolute given that the Phillies will let Rowand walk; second, yes please to Heilman, but I'd think twice about moving him out of the bullpen.
     
  19. Zac D

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    Also, wouldn't it make more sense to snag a right fielder than Rowand?
     
  20. kaleidosky

    kaleidosky Your Tweety Bird dance just cost us a run

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    I'm guessing the goal is to get Rowand for CF and move Pence back to right..
     

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