Fine, shortly after the draft, whatever. Trashing a city and all that good stuff. Maybe the league doesn't want that kind of behavior representing them. You-know-who? What is this, Harry Potter?
Is Kidd on the team? What the hell does that mean? I'm trying to explain the league's thinking. I don't care about his DUI. I was one of the few who defended him for it.
Oh damn, I'm on the ignore list. Are you saying that Francis followed Rudy's orders at the end of the game? This isn't the only thing I'm basing my faltering opinion of Francis on. He has shown times where he has been selfish. The only players he will pass to is Moochie and Mobley, and the occasional pass to Cato.
So something that happened 3.5 years ago should still follow him around? When does he get to live this down? How long did it take for people to forget that John Elway did the same thing? How long did it take for people to get over Olajuwon faking an injury? You, and every other misguided person who still criticizes Francis for this like to forget that Francis made a commercial talking about playing in Vancouver. Oh, that doesn't help your tired argument about Francis being a baby.
He got stabbed. If I'm not mistaken it was a hold up of sorts by some muggers/robbers. Similar in a way to Francis being held up in NYC last summer or whenever.
Maybe when he shows some maturity on and off the court. Getting a DWI doesn't exactly HELP an image that was tarnished on Draft Night in 99. We all know that Francis for the most part is a good guy. How is the rest of the league outside of Houston supposed to know? If you were from Vancouver, what would you think of Francis? Would you think of Francis like you think of Pippen now?
I don't watch the Celtics much, so I'm no expert, but here are my impressions based on what I have seen. The biggest difference I notice is that while Pierce and Walker play a lot of one on one, they are much more decisive and get into their moves much sooner. Our guys play with the ball way too much. Our guys hold the ball, stare down the defender and then have to get in 5 or 6 jukes, crossovers or behind the backs before they actually make their move. This results in everyone else standing around watching. Cat is at his best when he receives the ball, makes a jab fake, then makes his major move off that. I think all the playing with the ball affects the offense. It's like in baseball when you have a pitcher who works quickly versus a pitcher who works very slowly. Everyone else is more alert and into the game with the pitcher who works fast. The standing around watching is not good for the offensive tempo of the game.
Are you asking me or the league? I could have sworn that I wasn't the one picking this team. When was it proven that this happened? Pretty easy to get over something that didn't happen, I imagine. I'm misguided? Ever hear of p.r.? Boosting one's image? I guess people don't use those tactics in your naive little world? When did I argue that he was a baby? Do you have something against facts? They often help when trying to support a position. First you'd need to have a position, though, I suppose.
What, that he's helping lead a resurging Blazers? I'm completely over the Pippen thing. The thing is, the rest of the league should know that Francis is better than what many perceive him to be, especially the front office.
Yes, but I'm sure you knew that already Nice spin job...If you didn't care about the DUI, then why did you bring it up? Sure looked to me like you were telling us why YOU don't think Francis should be on the team. You said "Have either of these guys gotten a DUI", as if they were so perfect and Francis is a bad person...
RM-Good for you if you are past the Pippen thing, like I am. But I can tell you that we would be in the minority. If someone thinks Pippen is an a-hole for bailing out on Houston, then they should feel the same about Francis, if they have an ounce on objectivity in them. At least Pippen played for the Rockets and had interest before he pu$$ied out. Francis was a rookie who basically cried his way out of Vancouver. Is it really his position to tell his team that he doesn't want to play SG?
I think HOOP-T's confusion came as a result of both Pierce listening to his coach and Francis thinking he's the coach being unsupported statements. I really can't understand why anyone on earth would be angry at Francis for taking that last second shot and not calling a time-out. I guess everyone in here is a Rocket fan, but it must be hard to so often hate the team you love and its players??
kidrock.. i think francis and pippen is a TOTALLY different situation.. francis told them before the draft he did not want to play there.. did not want to play sg etc.. they drafted him anyways knowing how he felt so shouldn't have beeen too shocked by what he did.. i think that's a little different than.. choosing to sign with a team.. getting a huge contract from them.. then blaming your teammates.. bashing your teammates.. and forcing the team to trade you for basically nothing because your market value dropped from all that.. jayz.. i can be angry about it.. if he disobeyed his coach.. if he would have missed the shot more people would be jumping all over him.. i dont think whether he made the shot or not should have anything to do with how we feel about him disobeying the coach..
Spin? LOL. Do you have any idea what I posted after Francis got a DUI? Obviously not. I'm trying to explain the league's thinking. If Kidd is on the team like you say, then I don't know that I quite understand it. A simple misinterpretation on your part though, no big deal. I still like your Bon Jovi parodies.
Well I think its good to disobey the coach in certain ways. Great players have that ability to know when there is a situationt hat can be taken advantage of and they exploit it. Everybody in the building, inlcuding nearly every Jazz player, was expecting a timeout. If that situation wasn't as perfect as it was for Francis, he wouldn't have exploited it.
jayz.. yeah that's what i'm having trouble with. i was at the game. and as soon as the play happened i was like.. oh what a great play. not calling the timeout... and was thinking it was good that rudy didn't call for a timeout.. so i'm kinda stuck in between with my feelings.. i think maybe rudy should let him make deciscions like that near the end of a game.. but he should only be doing that if rudy has told him that it's ok to go with instint or wahtever and ignore a call.. i just dont want to see other lesser quality players start doing this.. and thinking.. well francis ignored rudy. why can't i..
Rocket Fan, How do we know that isn't what's going on in games all the time and this is just the first time it's popped up in an interview? Moe's absolutely right, I've only watched seven Rockets games but its freaking ridiculous watching our dribbling exhibitions, em, I mean plays run out the clock for that desperation heave.
I have not only watched nearly every Rocket game, I've attended most home ones, and I can tell you that they aren't ingoring Rudy at all. Does it always turn out the way Rudy wanted it to...I doubt it. I'm sure Rudy would like the players to do what he teaches more often, but I know there isnt any blatant ignoring of Rudy involved. For that matter, how do we know Francis just didn't see the timeout signal?
