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Francis wants out of Houston - Fonde' Rumors

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by man532, May 20, 2003.

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Originally posted by Baqui99
1. Steve Francis will not be traded
2. Kevin Garnett will not come to Houston

The sooner we realize this, the quicker we all come back to reality. Aside from adding a vet or two this summer, this is the team that we live and die with.
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THEN EXPECT TO DIE.

#81 Yetti, May 21, 2003

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Originally posted by windandsea
Hi, everyone,

Just found a thread that this guy posted last year (The same day of last year).

http://bbs.clutchcity.net/php3/showthread.php?s=&threadid=33731

Similar, right?
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Indeed it was strange but I dont see the relevance! One was a suggestion about a proposed Trade For Gartnet, the second was behind closed doors information about Steve Francis and his thinking.Cant see any connection, what do you see Windandsea?

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Originally posted by RocketBurgerwCheese
that would open up a spot in their lineup for Francis to fill.

Could you imagine a frontline of Yao, Rasheed, and Posey? Long, athletic, and devastating defensively. I don't think it would matter what kind of idiots we put in the backcourt (start Mobley and Vernon Maxwell for all I care), <b>no one</b> would be able to score on that kind of frontline.
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Rocket BwC:- Your interests are Deer Hunting and Golfing ******NOT Basketball. You dont realise what you just proposed! Rasheed Wallace would be the WRONG person (bad) to have on a Rudy T Rockets. The Fans wouldn't stand for his antics.

#83 Yetti, May 21, 2003
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Sometimes, I wish the Rockets would trade Yao Ming so that Yetti would stop his cinspiracy theory antics.

#84 Sane, May 21, 2003
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Originally posted by FranchiseBlade

Steve as a star player for a team has gone out of his way to welcome Ming, from driving him around, to stretching with him etc.

Also one thing is incorrect about the other part of the rumor as well. At least for the time being, Steve is still the first fiddle on this team, so he's not really having to play second fiddle to Yao.
I'm aware that Yao fans want every single play to go to Yao. As much as people say Steve doesn't play smart basketball, going to Yao every single time at this stage of his career is even more stupid. Steve may have been able to get the ball to Yao more, at times, but what he did was far from freezing Yao out.
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After you made this statement I thaught I would give you some additional information about Rocket Fans that like Yao Ming.
They dont want Francis to pass the ball to Yao Ming every time. They do want Francis to do the job he is being paid to do ie:- Point Guard. They want him to be a playmaker and pass first shoot second type of PG. They want him to believe that the Team is moving towards a Big Mans Game, especially if Yao Ming is able to adapt to the NBA style of play.They want him to still be the leader and be content with the fact that he might only be the second best player on the Rockets in the future. If he can accept these changes and play defence then Yao Ming Fans will be YaoMing/Francis Fans.

#85 Yetti, May 21, 2003
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Sane,

Amen brother!

#86 stevel, May 21, 2003
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sydmill that's the problem. its the cat and steve show
let's see if my math is right :

cat
+ steve
+ 4 str8 years
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= no post season

That bulls h i t

#87 robreid9, May 21, 2003

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Originally posted by MacBeth
My take...There are essentially three ways to go with a rumour posted by a relatively unkown poster;

1) Automatically give them the benefit of the doubt until they prove you wrong.
2) Automatically doubt them untl they 'earn' your trust/respect.
3) Base your reaction to the content on the information.

I am more of a number 1 guy, with a little 3 thrown in. I think no. 2 leads to much more negativety, and as long as you use nuber 3 to eliminate posts which are obviously out to lunch, I think 1 and 3 work well enough.

As to no. 3, I see no reason to assume that this is malarky. It's a surprise, I'll grant you that, and it might just be either bad info passed on, or a temporary tiff, but I see no reason to lump this guy in with TB just because we don't like the message he's passing on.

IF it is true...wow. Big, bad news. Could be a good thing, but usully when you make a trade because a star wants out, you get back less than you give. Or it could be nothing...or it could pass. Interesting, though...
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I pretty much agree with all of this with two exceptions:

1) I'm more of a 3 guy with a bit of 1 thrown in....unless it's obviously outlandish.
2) I'm not surprised in the least. Steve is VERY gifted, AND he still has some growing up to do. For Steve to want something better is no big deal; most all of us do. The big deal is that he's ready to jump ship for the unknown and the fact that he let this info get out.

Still....this news is relatively mundane. Even if it shocks you. If someone was going to make something up, surely they'd come up with something a bit more exciting.

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Originally posted by Yetti
THEN EXPECT TO DIE.
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i am pissed by Yetti, just like many Rox fans on this page

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Originally posted by Yetti
After you made this statement I thaught I would give you some additional information about Rocket Fans that like Yao Ming.
They dont want Francis to pass the ball to Yao Ming every time. They do want Francis to do the job he is being paid to do ie:- Point Guard. They want him to be a playmaker and pass first shoot second type of PG. They want him to believe that the Team is moving towards a Big Mans Game, especially if Yao Ming is able to adapt to the NBA style of play.They want him to still be the leader and be content with the fact that he might only be the second best player on the Rockets in the future. If he can accept these changes and play defence then Yao Ming Fans will be YaoMing/Francis Fans.
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Yetti, as a true rox fan. i hope u can shut the hell up and educate urself

#90 acizlan, May 21, 2003
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Originally posted by Yetti
After you made this statement I thaught I would give you some additional information about Rocket Fans that like Yao Ming.
They dont want Francis to pass the ball to Yao Ming every time. They do want Francis to do the job he is being paid to do ie:- Point Guard. They want him to be a playmaker and pass first shoot second type of PG. They want him to believe that the Team is moving towards a Big Mans Game, especially if Yao Ming is able to adapt to the NBA style of play.They want him to still be the leader and be content with the fact that he might only be the second best player on the Rockets in the future. If he can accept these changes and play defence then Yao Ming Fans will be YaoMing/Francis Fans.
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yetti, as a true rockets fan i hope you continue to speak the truth.

#91 jo mama, May 21, 2003
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Man, being critical of Steve to some people here falls somewhere between criticizing Jesus and Hakeem—and he doesn’t have the resume of either.

The guy was just passing on what he heard. If you don’t like the message fine, but no reason to get ya’lls panties in a wad about it.

#92 Desert Scar, May 21, 2003
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I am in total shock that this thread has actually made it to a 4th page...

#93 Band Geek Mobster, May 21, 2003

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Originally posted by Yetti
After you made this statement I thaught I would give you some additional information about Rocket Fans that like Yao Ming.
They dont want Francis to pass the ball to Yao Ming every time. They do want Francis to do the job he is being paid to do ie:- Point Guard. They want him to be a playmaker and pass first shoot second type of PG. They want him to believe that the Team is moving towards a Big Mans Game, especially if Yao Ming is able to adapt to the NBA style of play.They want him to still be the leader and be content with the fact that he might only be the second best player on the Rockets in the future. If he can accept these changes and play defence then Yao Ming Fans will be YaoMing/Francis Fans.
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I just wish he would stop thinking about his stats! You don't have to know anything about basketball to know that the current Rockets team worries more about the box score than the standings!

#94 bigboymumu, May 21, 2003
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Mobley worries more about his shots than Steve.

Steve...for a period of time....like STOPPED SHOOTING AND PASSED UP WIDE OPEN SHOTS. He had very few turnovers.....and quite a number of assists.

Francis should have scored at least 23 points per game.....but had some terrible games.........

Now Mobley. He's always going to jack up shots no matter what. And when he's interviewed.....he will always mention some stat or something.....well Mobley's pretty intelligent.

Anyways.....what's wrong with Kenyon Martin? Why does he twitch or cluck or whatever when he talks? It's scary......I hate watching it......

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Originally posted by Sane
Sometimes, I wish the Rockets would trade Yao Ming so that Yetti would stop his cinspiracy theory antics.
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no doubt

#96 GB_Rocket, May 21, 2003
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Originally posted by CrazyJoeDavola
I think we should make a trade with the Minneapolis Lakers or the New Orleans Jazz.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA LMAO

I can't wait for the our new San Diego Rockets Uniforms

#97 pradaxpimp, May 21, 2003
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STEVE FRANCIS will not be traded and He DOES NOT want to be traded!!!!

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Originally posted by SLA
Anyways.....what's wrong with Kenyon Martin? Why does he twitch or cluck or whatever when he talks? It's scary......I hate watching it......
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He has a tick. It is painful to watch, but it's cool that he's still willing to do interviews and such. Did you catch him on TNT or something?

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Originally posted by jo mama
yetti, as a true rockets fan i hope you continue to speak the truth.
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but yall just dont get it... Francis's main talent is not even close to be a playmaker. Its freakin SCORING!!!! Thats why many want Francis to move to the 2. Thats where he will shine... AS A SCORER. Kobe and Shaq do it. Shaq still gets enough touches to avergae 27 points... still kobe has room to jack up 40 shot attemps. Sure yao should be one of our main options, but as of right now francis is the one to take the most shots.

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