When Steve is playing he is a 22-7-6 kind of player that has the capabilities of winning on his own. He is a top 25 player that just needs to find his niche. Everyone knows Orlando is a terrible franchise that brought even Mcgrady to a lower level. Steve will prosper wherever he is traded.
This is true. But for Minny to succeed, they need the offense to flow through and to KG. KG needs to be the centerpiece of any attack plan. Francis likes to dribble the ball for 15 seconds--that's not the best use of KG's talents.
Francis needs to play on a team with a true Superstar so he can take a back seat and not lose face. Minnesota would be good for him. DD
TRIVIA QUESTION: When was the last time Orlando got Market Value for one of their Big Time Players in a Trade? Rocket River
well, you could argue that they quit for different reasons. Tmac quit because of the frustration of having no help and having to shoulder a huge burden. And having to deal with an ******* like Weisbrod. Francis, on the other hand, is quitting (seemingly) because of the frustration of having to share the ball with Jameer Nelson and Dwight Howard.
Well who didn't see this coming........LOL I can tell you this much: NO WAY is Larry Bird taking SF from Orlando! NO WAY is SF coming back to Houston! SF may be on his way out of the league after this incident. Do you really think a team will want him after three strikes? Well maybe Portland.....LOL If he hasn't matured by this point in his career I think its a pretty safe bet that he won't ever get to that point. I hope I am wrong but its not looking to good at this point. The article was spot on about Rudy T spoiling him in Houston. I totally appreciate his athletic skiils on the court but as JVG said "athleticism means nothing if it doesn't translate to smart play on the court" (paraphrasing) and SF has never played smart on the court.
E. Griffin was taken after failing in Houston and New Jersey(2 strikes for teams, but he also failed with the legal court with parole violations). R. Wallace was taken after breaking the record technical fouls and he was a bigger headcase than Steve.
That argument would be based on an assumption one that maybe colored with a bit of bias against Steve most of the arguments against steve . .esp concerning other players have been massive assumption based on dislike Even in houston . . we had little to NO evidence that Steve and Yao didn't get along. . or that steve wasn't up to helping Yao BE THE MAN it was just largely assumed and his NOT SHARING the spotlight seem to be based in part on his "We don't need a point guard' comment which is uniquely strange to me. . because if you beleive that his comment in ANY WAY influence the rockets to not go in that direction you should be kissing his feet thankful that we chose Yao and not J Will am I wrong? Would you have preferred J Will? or was it his 'presumption' that bothers you . . Ask T-mac what this T-mac what this team needs I doubt he will say another player that is in his position we may not frame it the same . . but it would be stupid to recomment a team replace you .. While I can agree that Steve phrased it. . . in a way that maybe a bit .. uhm. . . arrogant. . the statement was fact At the point I just do not understand Steve Hatred esp when it goes to the extreme that you always assume him to be in the wrong no matter the situation rather than be objective IN THIS SITUATION I think it maybe a matter of style I have seen few games of his this year but from what I am hearing if Hill is running the old Fratello Offense. . . who wouldn't get tired of that crap I had hatred of those old fratello "HELP YOU GET YOUR ZZZZs" games I am disappointed in steve . .and will wait to see what comes of it but I will not assume one way or the other Rocket River
Umm...no, no 'assumptions' are being made here about what Steve did that was wrong and got him suspended, we pretty much already know. Apparently, he's not been playing up to his level (which we all know is pretty good) for quiet a while now, and this last 'incident' was the final straw that led to his suspension. Even when McGrady confessed to not playing 'all out' towards the end of his last season in Orlando, he still averaged over 28ppg and had stellar numbers, winning yet another scoring title. McGrady wanted out because he felt (and correctly, if I might add) that the organization was content with not surrounding him with any real talent to take the team over the hump, he insisted on playing for a winning franchise that would at least attempt to build a solid cast around him, and another star player in Yao Ming. Not only that, but McGrady basically told them to trade him because he was going to 'walk out' and go elsewhere after his contract was up, so at least Orlando got something decent in return for him -- many people are forgetting this part, so McGrady didn't leave them hanging and didn't want them to have another 'Shaq' episode where he just leaves the team in shambles after walking out. He was wrong in not playing up to his full potential, which he admitted, but his numbers were still one of the best in the league. He came clean and moved on from there... Nobody hates Steve, you're being oversensitive here as a Steve Francis fan. But when you see a guy who repeatedly acts like a knucklehead, you have to start wondering if he will ever get his **** together. Say what you may about McGrady, but he isn't as volatile as Francis and he isn't a knucklehead. McGrady made one mistake per his admission in his last year in Orlando, and he vouched never to do it again (basically came clean), and took his fair-share of punishment from the media. Steve, on the other hand, repeatedly does stupid stuff and never admits he was in the wrong (remember that kicking the cameraman incident last year? Steve said everything BUT that he made a mistake and applogize for it; if that's not immature, I don't know what is). Sorry, RR, but you're reaching here. The evidence doesn't support your claim. Making a mistake and appologizing for it and not repeating it is completely different from a guy who repeatedly acts like a spoiled child who feels owed something and can't function when he's not the center of attention. I said this in the past and I will say it again: Francis needs to play on a sucky team where he will have no one whatsoever telling him how to play or what to do, a place where he can mesmerize crowds with his corssovers and leaping ability, a town that is just happy to have him and don't care much about trying to win and make the playoffs on consistent basis. He might do well with KG for a season or two, but he will eventually end up getting in trouble again. Whomever deals with Francis has to know this: he's a very good player to have as long as you keep him happy, but make sure you keep him giddy and don't tell him what to do.
as far as the tracy and steve comparison, they have the same problem, they are not leaders but expected to be because they are usually the most talented person on the team. they do a geat job when things are going well.
Orlando Sentinel wants Marbury or Artest. If LB doesn't think Marbury is a point guard, he ain't gonna think Steve is one. Orlando Sentinel's Mike Bianchi says: http://www.orlandosentinel.com/spor...14,0,5479797.column?coll=orl-sports-headlines
I think Franchise is ****ed. In the Kandi thread, Wolves owner said he doesn't want Francis either because he is way overpaid. If every owner thinks like that, Francis might just be traded for overpaid scrubs in another team.
