Francis Stats -- we're better with him on the court

I wonder if the Wilks stat isn't because it was garbage time for him and the Rox more than likely were way behind in his previous limited action.

 

If your using stats during Moochies tenure - I don't think that's earthshattering news. If not, considering how much time Steve is on the court vs is not (Wilks), I'm not sure that's going to give you a good picture.

 

The Rockets suck when he's on the court and they suck when he's off the court...don't matter either way...

 

Basically, the Rockets just suck?

 

I don't really buy this kind of on- and off-court comparison. First of all, Moochie sucked. Second of all, Francis has played heavy minutes, meaning that he usually plays 40+ minutes per game, except when it's a blowout by the Rockets, in which case he sits most of the 4th, with the Rockets bench players going up against the other team's starters for the most part. Lastly, there are just too many other factors involved to credit the lower opponent's FG% when Francis is on the floor to Francis alone. Such as other teammates he's tends to be on the floor with at the same time. And what about other stats that may be telling, such as assists and assists-against, or TO and TO-against when Francis is on versus off the floor?

 

I've always felt the best way to look at +/- stats was using player combinations. IOW, what is Francis' +/- with Yao, Cato, JJ, and Mobley vs Cato, Mo T, Pike, JJ or Cato, Taylor, Cat , Moochie (the infamous old small ball).

 

I thought you gave up on the Rockets? If you did, why are you still coming to a Rockets FAN website everyday?

 

You don't even need stats to see that the Rockets are much better with him on the court.

JVG takes Yao out when he's doing bad or just not playing hard enough, but he won't take SF out of the game no matter how he's playing because he knows that taking him out is a huge liability.

 

You only need to look at the games he missed two seasons ago with the headaches - they were like 1-25 or something....

 

But there are different levels of suckiness you know.

 

So to sum it all up, all we're really saying is that our backup point guards suck compared to Steve Francis. Well, that's really intriguing here, because surely no one would expect the starter to play better than his backups, right? Way to go, Stevie!!!

 

So what do we do with steve when we dont make the playoffs? It sounds like your happy just looking at his stats. I would like this team to make the playoffs.

 

These statistics, despite being interesting, hold very little substantial value. The outside factors are so sublime in number that these stats are not a true representation of on the floor "worth". Francis' "worth" to this team is a judgement call, taking in to consideration an vast array of statistical and non-statistiscal factors.

 

correction: non-statistical

 

I preferred Francis on the court 3000x more than Moochie, but then again, Moochie's gone now, so nothing to complain about =/

 

So true. The entire bench ship to CBA in China.

 

were obviously better with him on the court cause we dont really have a good packup pg. Stats dont show everything like how he runs our offense

 

but he is a turnover machine!