So you are the reason I have to use Madmaxu... Yao just got here and need some rest. I wouldn't say Steve Francis is the main reason we are a Lottery team...I'd say having both Cuttino and Stevie is the reason...
Kobe took 47 the other night himself! We are just getting our frontline back. The shots will balance out...
Pretty cool find...but the attempts looks pretty decent distribution to me... besides, Thomas and Dumar usually attempts more shots in the 4th quarter while getting everyone into the game in the first 3 quarters...oh BTW Thomas avg. at least 10 assist with those 1322 attempts. check last year's Rockets attempt numbers, you'll see Francis has 1000 with just 57 games while Mobley has 1350 with 74 games. This year at the pace they are going, with 82 game Stevie will have 1700 attempts and Cuttino 1500...
Damn you just dont see well. Look at the ad they have on the Houston website. It shows the 7' 6" Yao then follows with the logo, be part of something big. If they are not using Yao's extradinary size to sell their tickets. It sure is misleading.
Using Isiah's team is misleading. They didnt have the talents we have, they were all role players. And they won by defense, not so much their guards shooting up 40 shots a game. And they played very aggressive basketball, you could actually call it dirty. Dumar was also a team leader( in a quite sense). With the talents (potential) we have, it's counter-productive to have the two guard dominating all the offense, and the rest to be just role players.
<i>Pretty cool find...but the attempts looks pretty decent distribution to me... besides, Thomas and Dumar usually attempts more shots in the 4th quarter while getting everyone into the game in the first 3 quarters...oh BTW Thomas avg. at least 10 assist with those 1322 attempts. check last year's Rockets attempt numbers, you'll see Francis has 1000 with just 57 games while Mobley has 1350 with 74 games. This year at the pace they are going, with 82 game Stevie will have 1700 attempts and Cuttino 1500...</i> That post was a reply to the statement that Thomas wasn't the first option on offense. I'll ask again, if Thomas wasn't the first option, then who was?
ummmm...300 more attempts for a PG in a guard-oriented offense is not surprising...particularly considering the fact Dumars played 6 games less and finished with less than 300 shots apart from Thomas. again...thomas was not the focal point...yes, he took more shots than the rest of the team...but not by a hugely disparate number, like you see other focal points (Jordan, Hakeem , Shaq). Compare the difference between Hakeem and the number two option on the championship teams in regards to shot attempts and you'll see the very definition of focal point, I'm guessing.
<irony>How do you explain Detroit during the "Bad Boy" years? Was Isiah Thomas a non-factor? The Magic Johnson years in LA, I guess he wasn't playing point either.</irony> Steve isn't like any player I've ever encountered, especially if he keeps scoring at this 30 ppg pace....
gottoloveit, read my first post again before you mouth off like an waaah . i have seen other teams, notably the bulls, using "something big" slogans, EXACT same signs but with jalen rose etc. i see the same commercials through league pass for the other teams as well. now that that is settled, why can't you just shut up and watch franchise develope? if you were the gm of the bulls or the pistons back when isiah and jordan where still selfish and young, you would have probably b****ed and moaned, and traded them. you are just a malcontent, who is never satisfied.
Cuttino's offensive efficiency is falling..my guess is, they're going to have to stop playing him 43 minutes a game. But the thing is, if Rudy T is playing him that often, is it because he's so good, or that the alternative (someone else at the 2) is not so good? Moochie's game has been a bit below-par. David.
I agree with you as far as the guards dominating the offense. Ultimately, they are our leaders and we cant expect them not to lead our team in scoring. We have talent and we need to utilize it more (the GS and Port game was a start). 1-8, I would actually pick Detroits roster over ours. IMO, its not even close. Francis-Thomas - wash Mobley-Dumars - edge Dumars Thomas-Aguirre - edge Aguirre Griffin-Rodman - edge Rodman Cato - Laimbeer - wash (i really think Laimbeer has the edge) Taylor - Salley - edge Taylor Ming - Edwards - edge Edwards (based on what we know right now) Hawkins - Johnson - edge Johnson
Before you stick your ass through your mouth again. READ MY POST CAREFULLY. I am sure that they used Jordan's extraordinary size to say something big. Check out the Houston website, maybe you will know what I meant and where to put your ass in . Jordan is the star of stars, Isiah is a very good player, not a dominating player by a long stretch. Like it or not. The rest of their teams were all role players. Do you know them. Even Pippen in his prime was no stud. The Bull had very mediocre seasons when Jordan first retired. If Isiah had played on other teams, I dont think he would have the same chance to win any rings. It was the teamwork that did it. It was the Detroit's defense and dirty plays. Kiddie, do you understand that. Individually, there was no SUPERSTAR on that team. We have too much talents on this team for us to rely on only our guards to score. We should promote other options. TEAMWORK. Do you understand that. If you think SF can lead us to the championship all by himself. You are out of your little mind. Keep SF at point. He is just too short to play the 2 guard. There are a number of 2 guards in this league that could easily cause him problem. Do I need to name them for you, kiddie.
who the waaah are you talkin' to? i know your not talkin to me, i am a grown man, and i know you sure as waaah aint talking to me like i am a silly ethug. little whiners like you think they know all there is to know about the game. i bet your either 15 or 40, too skinny to lift a 10lb dumbell, or some fat waaah who sits on his waaaah all day pontificating about what eveyone else should do around your workplace, if you even have a job. ok, all i said was that the "something big" campaign is used with other teams because I HAVE SEEN IT ON COMMERCIALS FOR OTHER TEAMS SUCH AS THE BULLS. what the waaaah are you talkin about? i have seen the rockets website, what does this have to do with what i said? as far as the other ****, isiah and jordan got bashed for being too selfish early in their careers too, all you need to do is have a little patience and steve will grow into a more all-round player. but you wanna be a puck ass lil' wwaaaahhh and whine like a waaahin girl 'cause they aint playin ball the way YOU want them too. so go waaah yourself you malcontent. love, e-thug
hmmm, i can guess that from your ... response that you either went back and read my earlier post and realize you didn't really have an arguement in the first place or i hit on an exact description of your blahblahblah. or maybe both brooklyn, 4th largest, 1st hardest ... e-thug
<i>ummmm...300 more attempts for a PG in a guard-oriented offense is not surprising...particularly considering the fact Dumars played 6 games less and finished with less than 300 shots apart from Thomas. again...thomas was not the focal point...yes, he took more shots than the rest of the team...but not by a hugely disparate number, like you see other focal points (Jordan, Hakeem , Shaq). Compare the difference between Hakeem and the number two option on the championship teams in regards to shot attempts and you'll see the very definition of focal point, I'm guessing.</i> Forget about focal points, that's not exactly what was being discussed. Go back and reread the original post that I was replying to. It said that Thomas wasn't the first shooting option for the Pistons. First shooting option is different from a focal point. Somebody had to be the Piston's first shooting option. If it wasn't Thomas, then who was it?
The Rockets also use Moochies fro on the same "Be a part of something big" signs. Are the Rockets using Moochies fro to sell ticket? This must be a conspiracy !
confusion abounds...was this not a post about Francis' turnovers? Also, the post is actually incorrect. He is eigth in turnovers and let's think about why and who else is 6th/7th and 9th....
Okay, but has any team ever had a point guard quite like Steve Francis? I think that's the bigger question here.
