So now he is already better than the best power forward in the history of the league. And btw DaDakota, the Rockets are on the way to the playoffs.
yeah.. Yao plays better than the best power forward in the history of the league is playing right now. And I'm playing better than the great G. Mikan is probably. well.....Steve still isn't as good as the 40 y old John...
The number of rings a player own is one of the worst indicator of his skills. John Stockton is one of the best PG to have ever played this game. If Steve can pass half as weel as Stockton's level, I'd be ecstatic.
Steve and Stockton are not the same. I want Steve to pass more also, but I don't want him to give up scoring. And btw, Rings are the ultimate objective.
Originally posted by iOrange yeah, I agree with you on that... since YaoMing plays better pickNroll than mailman does right now. That was one of the dumbest post ever. You better pray that Yao becomes half as good doing the pick and roll play that the Mailman has done so many years to perfection. Granted that he doesn't do it as much as in the past; but it shows that you don't watch any of his games this season if you believe that Yao is better than the Mailman at the pick and roll.
The goal of every offensive possession is to give your team the best chance to score. Because of Steve's ability, often the best scoring chance is for him to shoot the ball. However, he needs to learn to pass the ball to the right person if that means a better scoring opportunity. Hence, 'passing ability'. While rings are the ultimate objective, it's still a terrible indicator of a player. Are you going to tell me that Cassell is a better PG than Stockton because of rings?
No way, Steve never passes. And to Meh, we won with Cassell and that is the point. You are right, he isn't the greatest point guard, and he definitly isn't a pass first pg, but we won with him. Steve and Yao will learn to play together, give it a little time.
w/o reading the rest of this thread i'm just gonna ask, you remember the lakers game right?? if there was ever a more glory-hog potential type moment than the end of overtime i haven't seen it. most hyped game of the year, national tv, defending champs, open 15 footer to close them out, and what does steve do. he passes to his hated teammate yao ming for the slam and the win and the glory. yes he must resent yao very much.
so now 3's and outside shots are easy. earlier we sucked for taking them, and memphis only came back from the inside.
I've read this so many times here. Some of you guys have been watching one too many soap operas. If you notice in the preseason and the limited time Boki is playing along side stevie in the regular season, Boki's always wide open and he doesn't even know that he's there. So many times. Its not just Yao he's ignoring, its anyone who don't look like Cat.
Of course Steve does pass the ball sometimes, but he almost always look to score first and then decide to pass when he is up in the air and can's shoot over 2, 3 or even 4 defenders. Even on that last play in the Laker game, please watch the replay again, Steve was gonna to shoot the damn ball, only when the defense collapsed on him and yao was so WIDE OPEN that he finally passed it.
That remains to be seen. I definitely saw Yao rolled to the basket many times on a PNR with either Steve or Cat. He rarely received the ball and slamed it home. So could Yao finish the PRN as effective as the Mailman? It depends much more on our guards than Yao. And Yao was so open and close to the basket, at most with 1 defender on him, I doubt he couldnt score or at least got fouled most of the time. Just to be FAIR to Steve, an good PNR depends much more on the giver than the receiver.
well no ****. steve was open (he had just pumpfaked kobe out of the way), then shaq took a step out towards him (not exactly the defense collapsing, he wasn't anywhere close to challenging the shot, but he had left yao open) and he fired a pass to yao for a dunk. absolutely friggin perfect, and with one second on the shot clock to boot. that play was perfect, he set up an open 15 footer which then set up an open dunk, steve set it up perfectly and executed perfectly. if you have something wrong with that play, you're crazy.
That play was at best a broken play. At worst, Steve double dribbled and was bailed out by the refs. Shrimpie
The pass at Lakers game was great. And actually I do think Steve was trying his best to involve Yao early this season. But he doesn't do it anymore recently... The reasons could be Yao's lack of strong finishes or his inefficient offense shaked Steve's faith on him. Or Steve's just jealous. Anyway, Steve plays like Jordan in his early career. Some people are saying Jordan was a great passer at that time and talking about some of his fancy throws among 3~5 defenders to an open man. IMO, those passes would never have been good passes except from MJ. Nobody has the atheletism like he once had. He was way quicker, faster and playing above everybody, that's why he could pass through a crowd. Apprently, Steve would never have that kind of atheletism but he's trying to do the same thing, waiting for 3+ defenders to collapse, then pass. We saw the results. To be a great not-MJ PG/SG, you got use your wisdom.
I'm too lazy to look it up, but how many rings does Bird have? Is it less than Horry's number of rings? If it is, then he's worse than Horry, by your logic. I guess an even more extreme example would be Stockton vs. Scott Brooks. I wonder who's better...
People i realy think he was passing to yao yesterday he was getting every one involved he only had under 10 points going in to the 3rd quarter and he wanted to get yao to post up he was waiting for him to get in positon i think he realy played good yesterday but when yao got opened i was confused to he should have passed then but still he was passing yesterday
