No GM in the league would trade Mobley for Reggie, Kerry, Rip, Doug, or Brent. Mobley is easily a top ten SG, and is probably close to top five. Add in the fact that he signed for a lowball contract, and you have the only player on the team that I would consider untouchable. He is a SG who scores (something like 13th in the league). Now if only we had a center who could post up, a SF that could play d and shoot threes, a PF that could rebound and a PG that could run an offense, we might have a team that could make the playoffs.
How much times do we have to beat this dead horse... Mobley is not a ball hog. If Cuttino Mobley did not score all those points for us, who would? He's becoming an efficient scorer, so what's wrong with him getting the ball. So what if they are not THE best backcourt in the league? They are young and getting better, and are already ONE of the best backcourts in the league. And Steve Francis and Cuttino Mobley are better than Baron Davis and David Wesley. Here's a stat comparison: David Wesley PPG: 14.2 RPG: 2.1 FG%: 40 3P%: 33 APG: 3.5 Baron Davis PPG: 18.1 RPG: 4.3 FG%: 42 3P%: 32 APG: 6.5 Cuttino Mobley PPG: 21.7 RPG: 4.1 FG%: 44 3P%: 40 APG: 2.5 Steve Francis PPG: 21.6 RPG: 7.0 FG%: 42 3P%: 32 APG: 6.4 The Rockets' backcourt scores more, shoots at a better field goal and three-pont percentage, and rebounds more. They almost dish out as much assists as the Hornet's backcourt too. Cuttino Mobley's stats are significantly better than David Wesley's, and Steve Francis' are slightly better than Baron Davis'. These stats are also from Steve Francis' injury riddled year. Baron Davis' horrible free throw percentage is not even mentioned. Heck, the Magic could have a done a Hack-a-Baron. The Rockets backcourt is simply better.
It just amazes me that people blame the Rockets problems on one of the only 2 effective players they have. This right here shows you the balance and wisdom in this boys post: Kittles is barely holding down his job on a team desperate for scorers and shooters. CM would make the Nets so much a better team it wouldn't even be funny (playing next to Kidd he would make the Nets darn right scary actually). CM isn't a top 5 SG, but he sure is a top 10. You match him with a top 5 PG like we can and that makes a hellova backcourt when healthy. You might want to spend time thinking about how to get our front court from being the worst in the league before tinkering with our backcourt.
I really don't understand why people are so pissed at Mobley and call him selfish just because he voiced his opinion, just like many of you are doing now. Plus maybe you should take into account the fact that the players playing in the NBA probably know a little something about basketball, and Austinrocket, you actually think that Doug "please don't give me the ball" Christie is better that Mobley...Come on! The only people on your list should be Kobe, Iverson, Allen, maybe Houston, and Regina Miller of old.
u851662 In terms of whom you whod trade Mobley for it is all a matter of whether we are taking about how good they are now or how young they are. Of course if I was a Gm I wouldn't trade Cuttino Mobley for Reggie Miller. I do think Miller is better but Mobley is younger. However, I do think alot of Gm's would trade Mobley for Brent Barry and Rip Hamilton. Barry had one of the best years of anybody in the NBA last year. Hamilton is a much better player than Mobley and I hope that if Carroll Dawson had the chance to get him for mobley he would. Doug Christie is a bit older than Mobley but even in that case I would still make that deal also. Christie is a top defender, which mobley isn't, and he could be a mobley type scorer. Mobley is more of a Grizzlies type player. Mo Taylor should stay, Mobley needs to either get his head on straight or leave. He's making good money and he is a star in Houston, probably more than he would be anywhere else, and he has a city that likes him until he pops off and gets cocky like he has recently. Im sure he wouldnt have gotten picked in the draft if Rudy didnt like him and I respect him for staying with the Rockets and not going to Toronto but he needs to learn how to be a team player. I think most would agree with that
I say top ten talent wise - Decision wise our back court is dead last in the league... Here is yur list of 2's(SG) Kobe, Iverson, Chisty, Ray Allen, Brent Barry (toss up), Vince Carter,Reggie Miller, Derek Anderson, Steve smith (only until cutino makes better decisions), Jerry Stackhouse... TOZAI there are your nine. You tell me... Hey Austinrocket it looks fun if you can hook me up ill be down to play...
I agree with you on that one. Out of everyone last year I think Stackhouse made the biggest strides. I hated him before but i Love the guy now. ALso ug22202020 , dont know the numbers in your name man, you could add Christie and Hamilton. Rashard even plays SG. Rashard is a badass. I still havent totally forgiven the ROcks for passing him. That just absolutely blew in my opinion. Thats why I stopped getting on this site. Most of us on here were all for Rashard and sure we would get him and they draft drew and some other loser. That sucks.
Just to let you know, Carter and Steve Smith are both 3's, but based on you knowledge of basketball I'm sure you knew that.
By the ways guys ya'll keep stressing his scoring. Damn his scoring Rodney Rogers used to score 30pts a game back in the day when he was the man and a starter. His team still didnt go anywhere but his place was better as a sixth man where he really made a difference for his team. All this he scores 21 pts a game it doesnt mean **** if the person your guarding scores 21 - 30pts a game. Okay he scores but how is his "D"? And what does everyone say teams that play good "D" win... His "D" is not there what is his turnover/steal ratio???? That stat will prove my point....
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/basketball/nba/rosters/Shooting_Guard.html Has a listing on all the SG's most times these players play both positions. So bring your sarcasm up my way on 290 if you really want to get down... But you can still erase those 2 names off and you still have a host of people he is not better than. What does that say about your knowledge???? ... And now you say Stack is a 3... U might want to quit while your ahead. Your credability is shot your really showing your ignorance... Go to the Pistons Homepage before you make such a stupid comment...
Brent Barry? Brent Barry had one of the best years of anybody in the NBA? Somebody save me before I die from laughing. He averaged like 14 ppg, not even in the top 50. Rip on the other hand is almost as good as Mobley, but I bet when his contract is up he will ask for more money than Mobley is getting. He's taller than Mobley, being 6'7", but he barely weighs 190, so he's gonna be prone to injury. This Mobley hating is ridiculous. Jason Richardson is still a rookie so there's no telling how good he'll be. Also, Christie was one of the main reasons the Kings aren't in the finals right now. I mean, damn, I bet Mobley would have hit a few of those wide open jumpers that Christie kept clanging off the rim.
u851662 is right. Mobley is a decent scorer at best but only because he gets every shot he wants. And by the way, Steve Smith plays a lot of time at SG and he qualifies at the position. Steve is older but a better guard than CUttino. You guys are in denial. CUttino is a good ball player but he is not elite by any means. If you watch Rockets game, who are the only two people you are watching the entire time. Steve and Cuttino. Remember last year when Mo played, the Rocks almost where in the playoffs. That ought to mean something Do you honestly think in five years if mobley leaves the Rockets, anyone is going to remember him. No shots, no points, no D
Uh, austinrocket, how can you consider Dre Miller one of the best players in the L? The Cavs are horrible. Dre's pg game may look effortless and sweet, but the Cavs suck like the mid-90's Clippers. Okay, okay. Say you were just about to hit the reply button after reading that arguing about that. I mean, who does Cleveland have? Davis, yeah. Murray, yeah. Dre plays with very little talent, right? So translate those thoughts to the Rockets. Wink and Cat...they are badass but they've got very little consistant talent around them. With Yao, Lamar, Caron, Rashard...whoever, and we're healthy, I think your perception of Francis and Mobes will change because WE'LL START WINNING.
I am not the biggest Brent Barry fan in the world but he had an awesome year. If you look at purely offensive stats on ESPN he had a top notch year. Take a look man. He's a bad ass. Not eh dunker and no game guy everyone thought. He has pretty good D by the way too, better than old Mobley.
The highest ppg he ever averaged was like 14 or 15 ppg. This guy never came close to sniffing the 20ppg avg, let alone 30. Quit making crap up to make Mobley look bad.
I believe about a month or so ago someone posted a game by game scoring comparison of Mobley to the opposing SG for every game of last season. Mobley had a clear and dramatic scoring advantage over the course of the season. Does anybody remember this post??!
Barry sucks, plain and simple. His career avg is like 10.8 ppg. Yeah, this team really needs to lose and additional 11 points for a guy who will only be remembered for winning the dunk contest and being Rick Barry's son. I try to take people's opinions seriously, but I can't help but laugh at the idea that anybody thinks Brent Barry is better than Mobley.
I totally agree with you about Christy He totally choked.. However I can remember scores of games that Cutino took shots at the end that he missed/ game winners and all. Some that he was not supposed to shoot because he had players all over him. Remember the one with Kevin Garnett in his face that he took anyway instead of passing it. Kevin is like 6'10 why try to shoot over him? I respect Moochie more because at least he had showed many times the past season that he could come through in the clutch he proved himself. Cutino has not. And for all those who said he took less to stay. You better believe he will demand top dollar next time so get off of that wagon now. Let me open up this can of worms "Wouldnt you want to stay on a team that has basically tried to portray you as the second coming to Allen Iverson in their city - Coach lets you do whatever you want on the court - Most players want to come o Houston in my opinion because of a lack of Discipline Rudy says NOTHING about anything - Just sips on his little red cup. Hey Rudy ought to do a comercial for Jack Daniels OR Crown Royal LOL! I always wondered what is he sippin on... I love Rudy though he is a good guy. after next season it might be time for him to take a office Job "Ya'll heard it here first"
