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France and Nigeria: 2 countries rocked by terror with very different reactions

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  1. s land balla

    s land balla Contributing Member

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    I alluded to this here, but the disparity between the reactions to these two horrific acts is indeed disheartening.

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    Washington (CNN) Almost immediately following the news of the first terrorist attacks that eventually killed 17 people across France, the global community united around a Twitter hashtag "Je suis Charlie" and just days later foreign leaders linked arms with their French counterparts to lead a historic million-person strong rally.

    Meanwhile, explosives strapped to a girl who appeared to be about 10-years-old detonated on Saturday, killing at least 20 people, in a country whose encounters with terrorism were also punctuated by a hashtag -- this time "#BringBackOurGirls" of Nigeria. Boko Haram militants killed as many as 2,000 people, mostly civilians,in a massacre that started the weekend before the terror attack on Charlie Hedbo in downtown Paris.

    Both the attacks in Nigeria and those in Paris are shocking and horrifying in their own respects, and yet one fomented an unprecedented international reaction -- a popular show of force that rivaled even the reaction to 9/11 -- while the response to the attacks in Nigeria paled in comparison.

    Here are a few of the reasons why:

    Symbolism

    The terrorist attack on the satirical publication Charlie Hebdo was not just violent, but highly symbolic.

    While the terrorists in Nigeria targeted innocent civilians in a strategic northern town in Nigeria and in a crowded marketplace, the gunmen who stormed the headquarters of Charlie Hebdo took aim at one of the most cherished values in France: freedom of expression.

    The attack quickly sparked the hashtag and image on social media proclaiming "Je Suis Charlie," I am Charlie. In a way that few nations would, the French people took the attack on Charlie Hebdo as an attack on the very core of their country's constitution and values -- a country where the line between politics and culture blends often seamlessly and where criticism and mockery of public officials rushes toward -- not away -- from controversy.

    It's a special relationship to a freedom won over and fought for more than once through bloody revolution that even President Barack Obama recognized as he reacted to the Charlie Hebdo shootings.

    "No country knows better than France, that freedom has a price because France gave birth to democracy itself," he said.

    And Americans can directly relate to attacks on freedom of speech, former U.S. Ambassador to Nigeria John Campbell said.

    And beyond the French people's broad reverence for freedom of speech, France is a country heavy on symbolism, embodied by its national motto of "Liberté, Egalité, Fraternité," Liberty, Equality, Fraternity.

    That symbolism, which drove millions into the streets of Paris, cities around France and around the world, was also quickly seized on by France's President François Hollande, who quickly called for national unity in an address that honed in on France's ardent belief in freedom.

    And while the reaction to the attacks in Paris evolved naturally through social media, Hollande and his government successfully picked up on the public sentiment and amplified those voices.

    Nigerian President Goodluck Jonathan, though, had concerns more pressing than issuing a rallying cry of defiance in the face of attacks that again sought to undermine his country's very sovereignty.

    In fact, while Jonathan issued a statement condemning the attack on Charlie Hebdo and expressing Nigeria's "full solidarity" with the people of France, he failed to do the same for the victims of terrorism in his own country. Jonathan is up for reelection next month and the atrocities committed by Boko Haram are the last thing he wants to address.

    And the attacks in Nigeria have barely resonated within the country's borders, said John Campbell former U.S. ambassador to Nigeria.

    "It hasn't even had a very large impact in Lagos," Campbell said of Nigeria's most populous city.


    By contrast, the attacks on freedom of speech resounded strongly not just in France, but around the world.

    "Americans can directly relate to attacks on freedom of speech. They can directly relate to terrorism and the impact in France is being compared to the impact of 9/11 in the United States," Campbell said. "Boko Haram by contrast is viewed as a kind of civil war ... and it's all happening a very long way away."

    Hollande, however, came face to face with an opportunity -- an opportunity to boost his own sagging political fortunes and to help unify a society increasingly fractured by politics.

    A country aching for long-lost national unity

    The attacks also gave France a shot in the arm, reinvigorating a long-lost sentiment of national unity not seen since at least the last World Cup.

    Hollande has faced the lowest popularity of any President in French history, with just 13% approving of his leadership at the end of 2014.

    Driving Hollande's sinking numbers, an economy struggling to reboot has also fueled the historic rise of France's far right party, the National Front. And after waves of immigration, the National Front and its xenophobic, protectionist platform are thriving on the perception that immigration is changing the color and meaning of the French nationality and challenging the very core of France's identity.

    But the reaction to the attacks has given the National Front and Marine Le Pen a slap in the face like only Charlie Hebdo -- which regularly lampooned the party and its leader -- could.

    Le Pen decided not to attend the march after she was not expressly invited, though the event was open to any participants.

    Instead, the demonstrators in Paris proclaimed a national unity cut in stark contrast to the divisive rhetoric of the National Front.

    Christians, Muslims and Jews, immigrants and those with deep roots in France joined together to proclaim "Je Suis Charlie." But that's not all they proclaimed.

    Muslims joined others in carrying signs saying "Je Suis Juif," I am Jewish, a powerful statement that countered not only the third gunmen Amedy Coulibaly's targeting of Jews but also increasingly concerning reports of rising anti-Semitism in France that are spurring thousands of French Jews to emigrate to Israel.

    Common fears

    As much as the terrorist attacks failed in their objective of silencing criticism of their Islamist ambitions, the attacks brought concerns over homegrown terrorists and foreign fighters to the surface -- not just in Europe, but in the United States.

    The three gunmen who locked down Paris for days were not only French citizens, but two claimed to be affiliated with al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula while Coulibaly pledged allegiance to ISIS, the Islamist group which has ravaged parts of Syria and Iraq and inspired militants around the world.

    The attacks have prompted American intelligence officials to scrutinize their terror databases and reassess potential threats, and White House Press Secretary Josh Earnest discussed the risk countries like the U.S. and France face in taking the fight to ISIS.

    But the attacks by Boko Haram in Nigeria don't stoke the same fears in the West, former House intelligence committee chairman Mike Rogers said.

    "A lot look at Boko Haram and associate them more as a separatist group than an al-Qaeda minded group. I think that's wrong," said Rogers, who is now a CNN National Security commentator. "If you have a group that is this brutal and shows this much disregard for human life and it's growing and it's trying to recruit people to its cause, this is a huge problem."

    Al Qaeda in the Maghreb (AQIM) was at one time the largest funder of Boko Haram, Rogers said, and AQIM has largely influenced the Nigerian group's tactics.

    While Boko Haram doesn't present as much of a threat to the U.S. as ISIS, Rogers believes U.S. officials should be more concerned about Boko Haram, particularly as the economies in African countries are booming and much of the continent is looking for trade relationships beyond the continent.
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    Without a sense of urgency or a direct threat, the American and European public are unlikely to react to attacks in Nigeria in the same way as they react to attacks in Paris.

    And besides Americans have grown numb to the level of violence throughout the African continent, said J. Peter Pham, director of the Africa Center at the Atlantic Council. Boko Haram alone killed an estimated 10,000 people in 2014.

    "There's a sense that 'That's Africa, bad things happen. This is Paris, it's a Western country. This shouldn't happen,'" Pham explained. "We're conditioned by years of reports coming out of Africa to expect this type of thing in Africa."

    Optics and a 24/7 media

    People around the world watched for days as the manhunt and later tense standoff unfolded between French security forces and the terrorists. In France, around Europe and in the United States, people connected on social media and reacted in real time as they watched each development unfold on cable news or through dramatic videos posted to YouTube.

    And that coverage dominated the news cycle, with little if any information popping up on TV about an ongoing massacre in northern Nigeria that would in the end claim 2,000 lives. Instead, most found out late this weekend or on Monday morning about the attack in Nigeria that started on Jan. 3.

    There are not only fewer reporters and news cameras in Nigeria than in Paris, but access to the northern region of Nigeria where the attacks unfolded is dangerous and practically inaccessible.

    "There aren't visuals of Baga and what happened there," Pham said of the town ravaged by Boko Haram's militants. In Paris, everything is happening "in real time," he added.
     
  2. Mr. Clutch

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    That counts as coverage
     
  3. AroundTheWorld

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    The article makes a good point and refutes what everyone initially said when I first posted about the Islamists in Nigeria ("it's tribal", "socio-economic", "has nothing to do with Islam", etc.) The truth is, every single one of the 2,000 lives lost in Africa is just as valuable as every single one of the lives lost in France, but it's human nature to us living in the West that the symbolism of that attack hits closer to home for us. It's the difference, if, let's say, you live in Houston, someone gets shot at your local McDonalds vs. 20 people getting killed in gang wars in Detroit, even if those are motivated by an ideology that also fuels a gang present in Houston.
     
  4. Remii

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    In America the media always shows incidents of crime and or violence and poor black communities to keep the rest of the country in fear of black people. That's why black people are heavily stereotyped in this country.

    The reason France is getting heavy attention is because the media's own was attacked. Terrorist have been killing all over the world but don't get attention like this. It's not that complicated.
     
  5. AroundTheWorld

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    I think you have a point there - certainly a contributing factor.
     
  6. peleincubus

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    it is also because africa is known for genocide and violence being more common then other parts of the world.

    but when people walk into an office building with automatic machine guns into atlanta, tokyo, bangkok, nyc, berlin, or paris etc etc etc and kill everyone there it is a big news story because it does not happen that often.
     
  7. DFWRocket

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    I think this is the primary reason..and its extremely sad that the west feels this way.
     
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    <iframe width="420" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/zIUzLpO1kxI?start=90" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
     
  9. Remii

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    I disagree.... People are being slaughtered on a daily basis in other countries like Syria and Mexico daily and that doesn't get much coverage either...

    And terrorism isn't new. France and other countries aren't virgins to terrorist attacks. But when a bunch of media members get murdered _ they give it 9/11 type coverage because they are scared.

    IMO, the primary reason the west feels that way is because we have no interest there... There's no oil there. Schools have been attacked in France before and we didn't pay attention... And now that the price of oil is dropping like a rock _ we'll eventually stop paying attention to what's going on in the middle east.
     
  10. Mr. Clutch

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    I see coverage on mexico violence all the time
     
  11. Gutter Snipe

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    #BlackLivesMatter ... When they are being killed by whitey. Otherwise they are ignored.

    It could be that simple.

    Or it could be that we only want to look at one symptom and one front of the ongoing cultural war of Western values vs middle-eastern values.
     
  12. Panda23

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    crime against the freedom of speech, people being slaughtered cause they drew a freaking picture.

    aint complicated
     
  13. cml750

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    There were over 400 murders in Chicago last year that went mostly unreported in the mainstream media. The media focuses on what they want to and unfortunately it is agenda driven.
     
  14. Remii

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    But thousands of people being slaughtered because they did nothing is ok though... Gotcha.
     
  15. Daedalus

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    Dude...Nigeria has a shytload of oil. In fact, petroleum is their #1 industry (90% of its export revenues).

    & until recently (b4 shale), 43% of its exports were to the USA.
     
  16. Remii

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    Thanks for the correction...

    I guess no one gives a shyt because it's Africa.
     
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    Where did I say that? Is this thread not about how the treatment of the two atrocities has been different? Western media sees the Hebdo killings as an opportunity to further the movement against Islam by positioning it against our very way of life, attacking our liberties/freedom of expression, there is no such opportunity with Boko Haram, they're unable to further any agenda

    And don't put words in my mouth. You've got some catholicpriest tendencies if you put unwanted things in peoples mouths
     
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    What's the history of groups like Al Qaeda, ISIS, etc shooting up the media at their place of business... Are media outlets one of the radicals targets that they have repeatedly attacked for a various range of reasons and not just cartoonists are others depicting their religion... Are you sure they're attacking 'OUR' freedom of speech, or just a specific media group for a specific reason in a country where they commit terror attacks often...

    Groups like ISIS and Al Qaeda need the media. The media is probably one of their best weapons because it spreads their terror to the rest of the world. And right now the media is helping them try to turn the world against all Muslims and or as you say further the movement against Islam because they kill the Muslims who are not like them as well.

    The media is trying to protect themselves... And their freedom of speech isn't necessarily 'OUR' freedom of speech because the media is agenda driving.

    My apologies. Wasn't meant as an insult. But since you brought it up... I wonder why there hasn't been a movement against Catholics by the media since their religious leaders like to rape boys.
     
  19. AroundTheWorld

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    These incidents have been reported in the media. But they are crimes committed by individuals. There is no ideology that in some way justifies these crimes. None of these perpetrators says "I am doing this in the name of Jesus". Big difference to violence and terror in the name of Islam.
     
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    What difference does it make rather they say who's name they're doing it in or not. And of course I'm sure most Catholics don't condone what those priest do just like most Muslims don't condone what those radicals are doing... Just like Christian ministers said they didn't agree with what the KKK was doing when they rose for the 3rd time in this country because they were a heavily based Christian group... But we didn't blame all Christians for the actions of the KKK.

    I just think it's a slippery slope when blaming an entire group for the actions of a few...
     

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