FRAN BLINEBURY: What's a team to do? Cut cord with Griffin

Rashmon · Oct 28, 2003

As a Rocket fan, I truly hope Eddie is able to walk away from this episode without a criminal record and is completely exonerated.

I hope he learns a valuable lesson, gets his $%#! together, has no future transgressions and develops into the monster NBA player we desire.

Back in the real world, there is a reason some folks are held in a jail cell (with a presumption of innocence) until they get their due process in court. There is prima facie evidence to believe they did it.

It is pretty apparent that someone punched this woman in the face and fired at least two shots from a gun. Unfortunately, regardless of legal concepts, all evidence I've heard points to Eddie.

As a person, I hope he has good lawyers.

As a Rocket fan it makes me sad.

GATER · Oct 28, 2003

Originally posted by barbourdg
If Griffin is not exteneded (by Friday), does that make him a restricted free agent or unrestriced free agent next year?
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barbourdg -
Unless he is cut or waived during this season, the Rockets will have Eddie Griffin's Bird Rights after the 2003-04 season. He would then be a restricted FA in the summer of 2004. If they extend him, he would not be a (restricted) FA until summer 2005.

DaDakota · Oct 28, 2003

This thread needs some more boobies.....

AMS · Oct 28, 2003

Originally posted by Rockets2K
dont you understand??? If he is released, we still must pay him...the CBA requires it.

that is 2.3mil down the drain. They have punished him for not sowing up for work. He is on the suspended list, which means he does not get paid as long as he is on said list.

It is in the Rockets best interest to keep him on the suspended list until such time as we can either trade him (unlikely) or he quits (not likely either). If he never gets his stuff straightened out, then the Rockets keep him on the suspende list and not pay him till his contract expires, at which time they simply dont resign him and let him walk..

one last thing....he is a bad human being huh?

says who?

we do not have all the facts yet, only one side of the story....in this country..everyone is Innocent TILL proven Guilty.

not Guilty TILL proven Innocent.

if he turns out to be guilty, fine...we get rid of him...but until that is proven, the Rockets are doing the right thing.
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tell it to him like it is. lay the law down

Williamson · Oct 28, 2003

Originally posted by Joe Fan
Ive always thought those t-shirts were Les' wife's way of subtly shooting the bird at Houstonians. That message tells you pretty clearly what she thinks of us as a group.

Anyway, the Rockets are in a tough position with this Friday deadline. The timing of having to extend EG could not be worse and they are going to take a beating in the media if they do so. It's a difficult choice and the correctness of it will not be seen for years with the perspective that time gives.

Where Fran has it wrong is trying to tell the Rockets what to do based upon his own political sensitivities. Les' wife can get away with it becasue she is Les' wife. Other than having a girl's name, Fran doesn't have the same claim. The Rockets need to do and will do what they think is best for the Rockets. That is their job, their role, their purpose. They can't be allowed to be forced into becoming an agent of social change.

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It's not Les's wifes message, it's Les's aswell. They divorced a year or two ago and the shirts remained. Les is a supporter of animal rights as well. And why exactly is it a middle finger at Houston? That makes absolutely no sense to me. I'd really be interested in you explaining that further because I've really thought about that and I can't for the life of me figure out how it "shows what she thinks of us as a bunch". I don't get it at all. It just shows me the Alexanders believe that animals have rights.

Maybe you just take it too personally because you don't believe in animal rights so it feels like those shirts are a jab at your belief system? I don't get it.

Sorry if I got off subject here but I just found this all to be odd. On the topic of Eddie Griffin. I'm for just keeping him suspended and hoping he shows some sort of remorse and turns it around. However, I don't think his contract should be extended. That just sends the wrong message. If he shows no remorse for his actions (and i'm talking about his abandoning the team more than the other incident which i know too little of right now to really judge) then don't resign him. I hope he gets his life back on track, but sometimes a stance has to be taken.

Fegwu · Oct 28, 2003

Originally posted by Joe Fan
Ive always thought those t-shirts were Les' wife's way of subtly shooting the bird at Houstonians. That message tells you pretty clearly what she thinks of us as a group.

And Fran has a point that it's ironic that she chooses to deliver her uber-liberal political message on the chests of bouncing cheerleaders. It would be funny to someday see NOW t-shirts on animals protesting the exploitation of women as sexual objects.

Anyway, the Rockets are in a tough position with this Friday deadline. The timing of having to extend EG could not be worse and they are going to take a beating in the media if they do so. It's a difficult choice and the correctness of it will not be seen for years with the perspective that time gives.

Where Fran has it wrong is trying to tell the Rockets what to do based upon his own political sensitivities. Les' wife can get away with it becasue she is Les' wife. Other than having a girl's name, Fran doesn't have the same claim. The Rockets need to do and will do what they think is best for the Rockets. That is their job, their role, their purpose. They can't be allowed to be forced into becoming an agent of social change.

The Astros cut Lugo because they thought it best for the Astros. This was true both for on the field and off the field reasons. You can bet if he had been fielding well and hitting .320 with 15 HRs and 40 RBIs at that point in the season, he would not have been sent packing. It's true the Astros used the opportunity to tout their purported collective virtue but that was just after-the-fact spin and PR.

The fact is that, in pro sports, there is a sliding scale for different athletes acting badly. If Kobe doesnt end up in jail, no matter what the trial brings out, he will be playing for the Lakers. No one should doubt this. And it's because he is one of the top 4-5 players in the league. At times, the best player in the league. But if it were Brian Cook instead of Kobe, you can bet the rules would change.

EG is somewhere between Kobe and Cook. Perhaps closer to Cook which may be the ultimate decision-maker.

Don't like it, put it on a t-shirt. And give one to Fran.
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Joe Fan
Now why do you have to bring your stupid political hogwash into this? Is this a politically rally? Don't you know where the HANGOUT FORUM is?

Now back to the REAL issue - I completely disagree with FRan on this. Eddy has not been charged with anything. God help us if our rmployers treat or react to rumours and inuendos about us. He is presently suffering in term of emotional torture and Suspension without pay.

As per Lugo and the Astros deal - the Astros ended up with egg on their face. They acted hypocritical, biased, prejudiced, unconstistutional and unfair. Lugo was exxonerated from the alleged crime - that makes the Astros organization look stupid. The Rox are doing the right thing by allowing what the Fore fathers of this land intended in the constitution for fairness to all residents of theis land.

Once again the Astros organization showed prejudice and poor judgement in Lugo's case. I liked the 'cut' for what it really was - for lack of performance and has cheap in the stingy McLaine's books. Afterall Lugo was a 'first time offender'. Do you think they would have done the same thing if Bagwell, Hidalgo, Berkman, Billy, Boggio or even Ausmus was charged with physically assaulting their spouses? Think again. Astros are just hypocrites and can be likened to Rush Limbaugh or "the government".

Joe Fan · Oct 29, 2003

Feg:

First you write:

Originally posted by Fegwu Joe Fan
Now why do you have to bring your stupid political hogwash into this?
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Then you go on to blather:

God help us if our rmployers treat or react to rumours and inuendos about us. .....
As per Lugo and the Astros deal - the Astros ended up with egg on their face. They acted hypocritical, biased, prejudiced, unconstistutional and unfair..... The Rox are doing the right thing by allowing what the Fore fathers of this land intended in the constitution for fairness to all residents of theis land. ..............Think again. Astros are just hypocrites and can be likened to Rush Limbaugh or "the government".
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Why not stick to something you actually understand? Unless perhaps hypocisy is your strong suit?

across110thstreet · Oct 29, 2003

ship him to the trailblazers! he'll fit right in.

in all seriousness, look at the recent legal issues in the NBA-

Jason Kidd- domestic abuse-pled guilty and fined
Ruben Patterson-domestic abuse- charges dropped
Allen Iverson and Glenn Robinson- both charged with brandishing a weapon on their spouses/loved ones.

do I need to mention Latrell Sprewell?

my point? nobody cares, it will all be forgotten, and eddie can't play basketball well.

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