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[Fran Blineburry] Ain't Nothing Like the Real Thing

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by freemaniam, Feb 8, 2009.

  1. Setuablaz3

    Setuablaz3 Rookie

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    Bring it on! why you back peddling? freak.
     
  2. Hydhypedplaya

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    Dude you take things way too personally...if you keep up the attitude I guarantee you will be banned pretty soon.

    Anyways...would hakeem score 50 on Yao? Maybe...would Hakeem score 35+ on Yao...easily....Have you ever noticed how easily Yao gets stripped of the ball b/c he keeps it to low...well if you ever watched Hakeem play you would know he had some of the fastest hands ever seen for a big guy....the guy would strip anyone and everyone...pgs sgs sfs pfs and centers...thats just one part of his defensive game.

    Now try to recall how Okur was able to block the hell out of Yao in the playoffs....A lot of Yao's moves start becoming predictable and if Okur could block Yao on a lot of those moves then trust me Hakeem would have no problem doing it.

    There is a lot more I could tell you about hakeem, but its pretty obvious that you are a little to in love with Yao and you are not willing to be a little more open minded.
     
  3. Wakko67

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    Setuablaz3 -

    Take a chill pill young fella.

    I do think Dream could light up Yao, but I think Yao could score as well on Dream. I don't see Yao going for fifty, but above twenty is realistic.

    As for second tier center in that era.......negative. Yao has off nights, but he has great nights more often that that. He wouldn't be as great as Dream, but he would be in the neighborhood with Robinson, Ewing and Shaq. Maybe a notch just under them.

    There is no one that can stop his hook or turnaround fade. I do see whats being said about Dream easily taking the ball away from him if he put it on the floor, but again thats Dream. The other centers of that day did not have those hands. When Yao loses it, its usually a small guard coming over to help. Second tier centers don't get double and triple teamed.

    I hope I'm around ten years from now to see the opinions of his game with some perspective.
     
  4. tinman

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  5. 24 in a roll

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    Thus Spoke Doctor.

    was the point i was making earlier.
    just comparing their individual production and skillset.
    whether al jefferson will continue to improve and have a magnificent basketball career, that remains to be seen.

    maybe zach randolph will have a better career than al jefferson when it's all said and done. :D

    but then, of course he could also be a hall of famer with a couple of rings when it's all said and done.

    who knows. who would've thunked nash would be a 2 time nba mvp 12 years ago? or 5 seaons ago..
     
  6. tinman

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    when all the good point guards left the game.
    no stockton, no magic etc

    now with the emergence of chris paul and deron williams, nash actually has competition.
     
  7. tinman

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    TAKE THEM TO CHURCH BROTHER! AMEN!
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  8. Dave_78

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    The era had so many good Centers that nobody even remembers Brad Daugherty who was a consistent 20/10 plus 3-4 assists guy.
     
  9. Blurr#7

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    Zo wasn't too shabby either. Motombo, Rony Seikely get lost in the mix as well. Back then you had to have a good center to be competitive.
     
  10. Dave_78

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    Yao couldn't sniff Robinson, Ewing and especially Shaq's level. Robinson was widely considered the best Center in the league until Dream went to another level during the early 90s. Have you ever looked at the numbers Robinson put up earlier in his career? For about 6-7 years he averaged out to being at 25/11 w/3 blocks player.

    Ewing was right there too with slightly less impressive stats but he could easily have an MVP or two. He always gave Dream good competition although neither he nor Robinson could do it in the big games like Dream.

    Shaq is simply not comparable to anyone who has played the game in the modern era. His stats and his rings speak for themselves.

    I just mentioned Brad Daugherty above because he was a quality Center. Not as offensively explosive as Yao but more consistent. Yao is better than Daugherty IMO but he is far, far back from Dream, Robinson, Ewing and Shaq.
     
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    Trouble is relative. After two years in the league Eaton had no chance.

    hakeem is the worst possible matchup for Yao - he has size, speed, explosiveness, reaction time, and a low center of gravity = destruction of Yao
     
  12. 24 in a roll

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    NOT TRUE.

    first, u named the 2 greatest pgs in the history of the game.

    nash came in the league at 1996.

    from 1996 till his mvp seasons, there has been a bunch good pgs who were better than nash at different points of his career.

    payton, kidd, marbury, baron davis, tony parker, bibby, andre miller, derek fisher...

    the point is not nash didn't have competitons which he did, the point is the progression of nash's game and career even into his 30's.

    so there is no telling what kinda of career al jefferson will have at 23 years old when it's all said and done.
     
  13. tinman

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    We know he didn't have this in his 2nd Year.

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  14. 24 in a roll

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    rik smits had a productive career. remember yao drew comparisons to him.
    smits would easily be a top 5 center in the nba today given his skillsets, sorta like gasol in some ways.
     
  15. tinman

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    Cassell > all of those guys. yes even Kidd.

    Ask Bibby about the 40 points he hung on him TWICE vs the Kings
    Ask Baron Davis about Charlotte vs the Bucks
    Ask what happened to the Nets after Cassell took over for Marbury

    Ask Kidd when he scored zero points against the Pistons while Sam is lighting up the Western Conference.
     
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  18. 24 in a roll

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    lol it is my fault. i totally forgot about the alien.
    in 03~04 season kg won the mvp, u could've argued cassell was the mvp of the team. and dat was the only year he made the allstar team in his entire career.

    and had the wolves had cassell healthy during the wcf, they could've easily beat the lakers and go on to beat the pistons in the final
     
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    exactly. that's how great the center position was and how subpar it is now.

    ESPN is talking about dwight howard becoming an all-time great? c'mon now.
     
  20. tinman

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    you deserve that rookie status removed!

    good job on the nba knowledge.

    also note how awesome Cassell's stats were with the Bucks. he was #2 in the league in assists. He would have made the NBA finals if it weren't for Big Dog Robinson, the biggest jacker next to Antoine Walker.
     

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