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[Fran Blineburry] Ain't Nothing Like the Real Thing

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by freemaniam, Feb 8, 2009.

  1. SuperStar

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    If it wasn't so hard trying to get Yao the ball, then he would have more shots. The guy gets taken out of games easily with fronting defenses, double teams, and physical play. Sometimes it takes the whole shot clock just to feed Yao the ball.
     
  2. Setuablaz3

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    And that is ALL... Yao's fault?

    Yao has gotten better and will improve even more. Lately, its not even been a problem. His team mates also need to get better at it, especially during crucial stretches of the game.
     
  3. CHI

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    Howard is not a better athlete than Hakeem. Have you ever even seen Hakeem play?

    Yao can't even score at will against Marc Gasol. How is he gonna score at will against Hakeem?
     
  4. SuperStar

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    A lot of it is Yao's fault because he's too slow and doesn't know how to establish post position well. His teammates don't want to risk turning the ball over since it happens a lot when they try to force feed Yao. Tmac is the only one that can pass it to Yao because he's a precision passer.

    Shaq, Duncan, etc. I bet anyone on the Rockets can feed them passes easily because they know how to seal their man and make themselves an easy target for passes.
     
  5. Easy

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    Don't have to get personal, dude. If you are trying to say Howard is as good an offensive player as Hakeem, then you are pretty laughable. Howard can't shoot 5 fts away from the basket. Hakeem can hit his signature Dream Shake 10-ft turnaround like layups. So being able to stop Howard is no indication of being able to stop Hakeem.

    That said, I think the Eaton comparison is not totally invalid. Yao is not as good a blocker as Eaton. But Eaton was not half of an offensive player as Yao. Hakeem did have problems scoring against big centers. So if he had to score against Yao on one end and defend Yao on the other, I don't think he could be as dominating over Yao head to head as some people here think it would be. Hakeem would still be superior. But I wouldn't say he would "kill" Yao.
     
  6. Setuablaz3

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    To me Howard is more athletic. Just wait till his prime and it will be crystal clear.


    Yao got blocked by a 5 feet guy ONCE. What kind of stupid question is that?
     
  7. t_mac1

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    hakeem at age 36 put up 19 pts a game, 10 rebounds, 2.5 blocks, 1.5 steals, 52% shooting, 36 min per game.

    that's hakeem at age 36. yao and dwight howard are putting similar #s like that RIGHT NOW in their prime.

    are you even serious?

    this is hakeem's prime.

    around 27ppg, 12-13rpg, 2 steals, 4 blocks 53-54% shooting, 38-39 mins per game

    i don't foresee yao getting any better. and dwight may get a little better but not by much.

    you need to start watching more basketball bro.
     
  8. CHI

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    You underrate Hakeem and overrate Yao and his contemporaries just to make your point.

    Howard is not more athletic than Hakeem. Hakeem was way quicker, faster, stronger, and had much better coordination than Howard... and this is before Hakeem's prime.

    I love Yao but he wouldn't even have a chance against Hakeem. Yao, at this current stage, would be a second or third tier center in Hakeem's era.

    Are you even a Rockets fan?
     
  9. t_mac1

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    and don't make me bust out hakeem's playoff stats. sheesh.

    career 26ppg, 11.2rpg, 3.2apg

    but in the championship years: 31ppg, 11rpg, 4.5apg, 4bpg

    are you even serious?
     
  10. Setuablaz3

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    So you are saying Yao doesn't know how play the post game at all? Maybe you should.

    I wonder why team plays better when "precision passer" is not in uniform.

    I'll take your bet.
     
  11. SuperStar

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    Yao has trouble with getting the entry pass when teams front, double, or play him physical often. He knows how to score from the post.

    Probably because the precision passer was too lazy to rehab this year after comming off an injury.
     
  12. Setuablaz3

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    Yao would be a 2nd tier centre?

    Are you even a rockets fan?

    Just because I think Howard is better athlete than Hakeem prevents me from being a rockets fan? I respect Hakeem and he is in my books the best Centre to play the game just so you know. But to me Howard is super athlete.
     
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    the first tier centers of that time were hakeem, shaq, patrick, and david robinson.
     
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    Before you bring your garbage to me for the umpteenth time lets get this clear.

    Someone said Hakeem would drop 50 points on Yao. LOL. I said Yao would have had his way on offensive end. (and no! Yao wouldn't allow god 50 points on him.)

    So all of you that disagreed with me; you are saying;

    1) Hakeem would drop 50 points a game on Yao.
    2) Against Hakeem, Yao couldn't touch a basket with a barge pole.

    I ask you to go look at yourself in the mirror. Im not sure if I want to converse with people of that intelligence level. Sorry, no offence.
     
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    hakeem probably could score 50 on him IF HE WANTED TO b/c you underestimate hakeem's skills, stamina, and mid-range game.

    and no, yao would also get his, but hakeem is arguably THE BEST 2-way player in the history of the game. yao would probably get 15-16 pts.
     
  16. Setuablaz3

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    Ok your point taken. Thank you for your opinion. Lets just say we agree to disagree.

    *adds t_mac1 in the Schmuck list.
     
  17. t_mac1

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    lol, hakeem is one of the rare players who make both all-nba and all-nba defensive teams. he's in most people's top 5 2-way players.

    do you know what a 2-way player is? you've got a lot to learn.
     
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    Everyone freaks out when Jefferson is compared to Hakeem? Hakeem was a more complete player, but offensively, their production is quite similar at the age of 23. That isn't to say that Jefferson is a slouch on defense either. I don't find it insulting for the comparison to be made... I've made it myself. I also wouldn't be surprised is Jefferson continues to improve and has a long, all-star caliber career.

    Jefferson
    Points - 23.1
    FG% - 49.6
    Rebounds - 10.9
    Assists - 1.6
    Blocks - 1.6

    Hakeem
    Points - 23.5
    FG% - 52.6
    Rebounds - 11.5
    Assists - 2.0
    Blocks - 3.4
     
  19. Setuablaz3

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    I thought I'd be nice to you but you wouldn't have it. And now you are making it personal.

    Do you know what ********** is?

    I suggest you go change your screenie, since mac wouldn't be around for long. I feel sorry for you since you must have had faith in him but he turned out such a looser.

    But that is not a reason to hate on Yao. Mac fuked himself up and got down graded to role players from 2nd in command.

    Thats something for you to chew on.
     
  20. t_mac1

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    now i know for sure you're just an 8 year old.
     

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