Even though I just now said I thought T-Mac was the better player, I have to wholeheartedly agree with you here and then-some. I hate to pile on McGrady because he has almost singlehandedly carried us in the playoffs, but he is about as unclutch as it gets when the chips are on the line. It's actually counterintuitive because, to begin with, if he didn't play as great as he routinely does in the playoffs, we wouldn't have even been in positions for him to demonstrate his unclutchness, considering the garbage we have surrounded him with. But yes, two years ago in Game 7 against Utah with 7 minutes remaining and Utal already in the penalty, he did the opposite of what any other great perimeter player, hell even Steve Francis would do, and that was bail out the defense by taking weak jumpshots. Last year, he completely disappeared in the pivotal 3rd quarter of Game 6 and deferred to Bobby Jackson as Utah blew us out of the water, despite being brilliant the rest of the night. Again, I know someone will misinterpret what I'm saying here, even though I have conceded the fact that were it not due to his brilliance, he wouldn't even have put himself in those positions to fail. But he is just not clutch at all and refuses to drive the ball when other guys with his talent would drive it down your throat.
Yea, I was mainly was referring to the turnover problems Agreed. He really needs to work on it if he wants to retain his status as "elite." I don't know if he has the work ethic to improve his game anymore though at this point. It doesn't seem like it. No contest there. I'm surprised they acknowledged his worth with the ranking. T-Mac bashing seems to be the "in" thing these days. I would have expected him at #5 or #6.
Whoa now, some of you guys riding wades jock over Tmac are goin overboard. Maybe now you'd take wade over Tmac, cuz tmacs pushin 30 and wades almost fresh out of college. But Tmac back in the day, 60 point games, M.I.P, multiple scoring champion is better than wade any day.
Kobe never quite had a playoff run like that with a much better Shaq. People who don't appreciate Wade don't pay enough attention to efficiency, dec. making and leadership. The Olym+ Wades last healthy run should have removed all doubt he is in the mix with LJ and KB as the best wings post MJ. Basketball isn't horse, 1 on1 , or asthetics, it is more about what you do so your guys outscore the other team. Wade may be the best bar none. Prob him or Lebron. (Kobe a tad behind b/c he is less able to keep team morale high when the going get's tough)
This discussion isn't about back in the day. My argument against Wade being better is that he is as injury prone, or more, than McGrady. Plus, other than when the Heat had assembled a group of solid veterans around him, along with a deep bench, Wade hasn't been able to do much to help his team, even when he wasn't injured. I'd say, all things considered, that T-Mac and Wade are at about the same level.
Not gonna lie that suprises me how high they put him. I believe it was kind of because there isn't much better below. (AI getting old, I have trouble believing Manu is the 4th best , Roy is injury prone also, JJ hasn't established himself fully yet). If TMAC is healthy he is as good as anyone at any position. Lets just hope he can stay healthy for 1-2 years (along with the rest of the rockets) then feel free to break down and when Houston has 2 rings (well I don't really hope they breakdown, but I'd take that tradeoff, then back to rebuilding for a few years).
That Heat team w/o Wade was very poor for a playoff team. He was the closest thing to a one man wrecking crew in the finals we have seen since early 90s MJ (outside of bigs). Tmac is great, but he doesn't have a sustained round 1 at that level, EVER. LB against Boston was close, even in losing. KB and even more so TMac tend to get more individual and j happy and their teams fade when the going gets really tough. I have no issue with Tmac at 4 among swingmen, if only he had the lux of Manu or Pierce to pick their spots.
fix'd While he's a superstar right now, there's no doubt league rules has helped him. We'll see how well he stands 10 years later when the game changes yet again.
Well this shows a lot of respect for McGrady. It's kinda wired, one site writes he's only 29th player in the NBA, and the other writes he's top 3 sg in the leauge. And I agree with that article. I mean when T-Mac is healthly he can do everything. The problem is first of all he needs to show he can play the whole season while being 100%. And if he's healthly next season, I am sure he will have a big one.
Tracy has just as much of an advantage as wade does in today's game, but I do believe that Tracy is just as good as wade if they're both healthy.
Pretty good list, IMO. I think you could argue back and forth over #2 and #3 but Wade has looked damn good as of late. We'll see pretty soon.
Tracy McGrady is THE REAL DEAL....i urge all Houston fans to not under value his presence on this team!!! say what you will about him...but he is AWESOME
Wade was the best player in the NBA playoff (by miles) in 2006 and the best player using Fiba rules this year (or at min co-best w/ LJ, despite all the KB hype going in and world recogn, unless you think Wade has world refs in his pockets too) His issue is health, but in top form the only guy I might take to lead my team in the playoffs over him might be LJ, and I emph. might.
This is way overrated. T-Mac is one of the worst SG/FG/G in the whole league now in term of FG%. It doesn't make any sense to be listed on top 3 at least before he could improve to average or above.
No big deal but I think if you are gonna quote stats they should be correct stats. Wade's career high in assists is 6.6 apg. His career high in blocks is 1.1 bpg.
