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[FOX26] Rockets Pick Up Option For Goran Dragic

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by HMMMHMM, Jun 27, 2011.

  1. DaDakota

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    Let the record show that what we fans think is ****ing IRRELEVENT....we are not paid to make those kind of decisions.

    Nor are we judged on our job performance from stuff like that.

    Now, if we were employed by the Rockets and our JOB was to recognize talent and do what is best for the franchise, then you would have a point.

    What this shows is that the Rockets did not recognize his talent and did not really have plans for him beyond this year.

    DD
     
  2. PinoyRocket

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    i'm in tears..
     
  3. SuperMarioBro

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    Well you could coach professionally, right? And you have like unbelievable talent scouting skills, right? So shouldn't you have seen that he had this kind of talent, right? I mean nobody understands the game like you...
     
  4. Fullcourt

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    What is the purpose of talking **** like this?
     
  5. DaDakota

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    Hell I don't know, but if I was working for the Rockets and I kept under evaluating guys and letting them leave - or misjudging them, I would expect to be fired.

    Now, I am not saying they didn't like Dragic, just that they did not see how his talent would translate into elite level starting PG production.

    Is it fair to ask them to see into the future like that? I think that is exactly what they are judged upon, can they recognize talent or guys that will develop into supreme talent.

    Morey gets DESERVED credit for seeing the hidden talent in Lowry, why then is he not criticized when he misses on guys like TWill, Lin and apparently Dragic?

    DD
     
  6. Carl Herrera

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    Please, there was no evidence from which to believe that Dragic was going to play at his current level. He played competently, but by no means was he putting up production near his current level even on a per-minute basis. They didnt see what Goran did not show. Sometimes, guys get better and Goran just showed that he did for the first time.

    In fact, Dragic was less than 30 games away from struggling as in Phoenix-- so much so that PHX gave the Rockets a pick to trade him for Aaron Brooks.

    Also, you keep on b****ing about this mistake or that. The fact is every team makes a good number of them every year. The key is having an above-average batting avg and the Rockets have done so.
     
  7. daywalker02

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    Twill..... He didn't miss on ..... but it would be better to have missed OUT on this guy
    Lin.... old story.... no biggie.....
    PG is the least spot to worry because we have a lot of similar talents there
    I am still confident Llull can come over and make some kind of impact.
     
  8. gah

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    Donnie Darko had the incredible power of seeing the future, DaDakota has the amazing power of hindsight.
     
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  9. DaDakota

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    There was evidence the guy scored 24 points in a quarter in San Antonio in a playoff game as a 2nd year player.

    There should have been evidence in practice, and team evaluation.

    Agree about them having a decent batting average, but the problem with that is teams do not win championships by hitting a bunch of singles......and then letting home run hitters walk out the door for nothing.

    They are missing on big time players....or at least it looks that way....

    Let me clarify.

    1. They did not see Lin as all that important and thus cut him - Morey admitted it was a mistake.

    2. Morey constantly refered to TWill as having the most upside on the roster - SWING AND A MISS

    3. They clearly had no plans for Dragic beyond this year and thus let him become an UFA - Another mistake - but one that is only a mistake if he leaves, because it can be rectified by signing him going forward.

    So, tell me CH, do you think Morey can recognize top notched talent BEFORE it has proven it in the NBA?

    Lin - missed
    TWill - missed
    Dragic - missed

    Now getting solid role players like Parsons and PPat is pretty cool....but we need better players, and right now, I question the judgement or ability of our management to find them.

    DD
     
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    Rox are batting like .700

    Lowry (Rafer Alston)

    Lee (Trevor Ariza)

    Parsons (2nd rounder)

    Scola (Vspan/2nd rounder)

    Camby (Thabum and Flynn)

    KMart (Landry[late 1st])

    Dragic+pick (Brooks[late 1st])

    Bud (2nd)

    Pat (late lottery pick)

    Morris (late lotto[isn't proven bust or proven commodity])
     
  11. DaDakota

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    Look, that is how GM's are judged, their JOB is to find future talent, anyone can find talent that has already proven itself....

    What good is that?

    DD
     
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    Forget about Twill.....
    Lin everyone else missed out on him......
    so are you going to complain about all 29 Front offices in the NBA?
    Morey will always try to lowball guys, I guess even borderline allstars...... only superstars he won't be doing that to.
    Dragic is not a superstar yet so his actions are logical.
     
  13. DaDakota

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    His actions are definitly logical, but risk averse, and to hit that homerun sometimes you have to swing from the heels.

    DD
     
  14. rolyat93

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    Yeah, but nobody's perfect. And instead of praising his good picks/decisions and criticizing his bad ones, you knit-pick the bad ones, and bring them into every thread.
     
  15. DaDakota

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    Because his legion of loyalists refuse to acknowledge the guy has missed on some pretty big players.

    If any of them become that GO TO player that the Rockets are seeking, he will have failed big time.

    DD
     
  16. Uprising

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    Man, some of you guys have serious hard'ons for DD.
     
  17. DaDakota

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    Thou shalt not criticize Daryl Morey !!!!

    DD
     
  18. rolyat93

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    Just tuck it into your waistband, it disguises it and it feels good.
     
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  19. durvasa

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    Dragic is talented, and the Rockets brought him in because they liked his talent and believed he had a chance to be really good. This is all you can ask from good management. Make the smart, high-percentage play. Its not about reading the future and knowing exactly how everything would play out. They were able to lock in Lowry to a very good deal by being smart. The same thing could just as easily have happened with Dragic, but it so happens that there was a perfect storm of opportunity and everything just clicking for him at the same time.

    You play poker, right? What makes a good poker player? Is it knowing the percentages given a particular dealt hand and what is known about the table, or having some sort of clairvoyance about the "hidden cards" or what will happen in the future?
     
  20. tosweet68

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    I don't see a single "home run hitter" that has walked out the door from here.

    Twill is definitely not one, Lin is not one.
    They are both nice players but not any better than what we still have on the team.
     

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